Newps wrote:


Emily wrote:




We had a Duchess crash for the same reason...I've never taken off with
full nose up trim, but I'd imagine that if they could have pushed the
nose down, they would have, correct?

No. You can't get a spam can certified if you can't overcome full nose
up or down trim. This is the second one I've seen. A couple years ago
a Skymaster crashed near here for the same reason. Pilot left full nose
up trim after landing, then tried to takeoff. Airplane rotated way too
soon and mushed off the end of the runway. Everybody walked away, plane
totalled. Pilot got alarmed by the out of trim condition and became a
spectator at that point. Dumbass.

I just checked the report, and it appears that trim was at 10 degrees in
the Duchess case. By the time I did my multi training at the same
airport, we were still in a state of paranoia over elevator trim (crash
killed three people), so it was something I always checked. How much
would a typical light twin pitch up on takeoff with the trim set like
that? I know myself, I usually ended up trimming down on climb because
the nose was hard to hold down (although I never flew the 76)