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Old August 28th 06, 07:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Beckman
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Default Crashing on takeoff... how odd

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Newps wrote:

Full nose up trim is immediately apparent on the application of power.
The fact that he let it get away from him says it all. It doesn't take
a lot of forward stick after takeoff to put the nose where it needs to
be.



One more non-aviator question here - is upset recovery training not
normally part of the licensing procedure? What Larry described seems a
good example of upset.

Ramapriya


In the United States the emphasis is on Angle of Attack Awareness and Stall
Avoidance.

You do fly both power on (take off / departure) stalls and power off
(landing) stalls as well as turning stalls but full on unusual attitude
recovery (in the sense in which I think you are referring) is not a part of
the private pilot sylabus, no.

Experiencing the pitch authority of full up trim at high power settings and
how abrupt can be a Trim Stall should, IMO, be emphasized more stridently
than it is (at least in the King Cessna course.)

Jay B