Part 121 Regulations Question
agreed and that is why I did immediately comply. the problem today is
that there are tons of unpublished rules and regulations (Op Sepcs, FA
handbooks, etc.) and there is a small minority of FA's who claim "due to
new security regulations you can't do whatever." if that is truly a
security regulation why is she the only FA to follow this regulation.
Who is "the only FA to follow this regulation"? You never said that the
flight attendant you asked you to put your bag on the floor claimed it was a
security regulation. And it's not a security regulation...it's a cargo
carriage regulation that has likely existed for a very long time.
I might have cut and pasted out of order. When I stood up for a few
minutes at the back of the 757, she claimed I couldn't stand there due
to security. Now by my guess, 95% of the time the FA's enjoy company to
chat with. The 5% of the time it is a security issue to stand there.
(this is for over 400k miles in the past 5 years on this same carrier).
Well someone is either making up this regulation or the others are not
following it.
IMHO, it is counter-productive to try to and question the flight attendant.
Maybe if the request is just blatantly ridiculous, but I doubt that happens
very often (none of the examples you've given seem blatantly ridiculous to
me).
I'm not about to get into an argument and I instantly started putting my
bag under the seat. But often the FA's don't hang around, as they are
not paid to hang around, to (politely) question. And these requests
happen literally every flight and some are quite ridiculous. For
example, standing at the back of the plane. If I know from experience
it is allowable for 95% of the time, then this 5% sure sounds
ridiculous. This goes for hanging out by the cockpit door (I get
upgraded often due to my frequent flier status). So it is ok to stand
by the cockpit door but not at the back of a 757??? Note, if this
regulation does exist, I wouldn't be surprised but then why is 95% of
the FA's not enforcing especially by the cockpit door?
Given how absurd the other security regulations are, it wouldn't surprise me
if the security regulations quoted do in fact exist. Even if only a handful
of flight attendants enforce them. Your percentages are obviously made up,
but even if we accept that a minority of flight attendants are enforcing the
security regulations, that's not such a surprising situation, and it
shouldn't be used to make it harder for the flight attendants who ARE trying
to do things by the book.
stretching for 10 minutes on a 5+ hour flight is VERY reasonable and, in
fact, I've seen videos on planes suggesting to stand up to avoid that
one lawsuit of a passenger dying (?) due to blood pooling in their legs
due to inactivity. My percentages are NOT made up, but a guess, yes
though. A frequent flier on another board wrote to me today "I fully
agree with your original thread started which was about FA's just
"making" up rules as they go which I've personally experienced as
well........"
If you have done the research to determine for certain that a regulation
doesn't exist, then by all means point that out to the airline. But absent
that, why go out of your way to make assumptions that lead only to conflict?
What's so hard about giving the flight attendant (who is presumably
better-educated in the regulations than most passengers would be) the
benefit of the doubt.
because I'm trying to do something quite reasonable, for example,
stretching on the long flight. Should I argue about it after a 13 hour
flight? Hell no. I'm stretching on that flight. Again, this is not a
one time incident. I've flown over 100k miles since January 1st. I
spend a significant time on planes (I wish more of it was myself flying)
and see this stuff all the time.
Again, I'm not trying to raise hell and when asked to do something by a
FA, I do it. But many things I've heard said by FA's are very
ridiculous and diluting the real purpose of security regulations.
Gerald
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