Possible, also possible that they hoped the BRS chute would
open and cushion the forward speed and impact. We'll just
have to wait and see all the evidence next year. There is
already a CG video of the impact, there may be more video
that will be found, the flight path will be refined, the
pilots experience in the NYC area will be examined, the
plane will be examined for any signs of a failure and
including any bird damage [feathers and blood may have
survived the fire and fall].

But for now, all pilots flying in and near such Class B
corridors can brush up on their steep turns with minimum
radius. Radio procedures and "self-announcing in the
corridors or getting ATC clearance through rather than being
required to turn might have helped in this case [ might
other times too].

It should be noted that it didn't open.


"swag" wrote in message
oups.com...
| Any body notice that CNN quoted the NTSB last nite as
saying that the
| parachute had been thermally deployed?
|
| To me that means he was trying to recover from an airframe
disaster.
| And it makes it much less likely that he was just botching
up a turn
| maneuver. I really have trouble visualizing a student
with his flight
| instructor flying into a building because he screwed up
the turn. And
| reaching up and pulling the big red lever in the roof.
Since we're all
| guessing, I'm going with loss of a flight control
surface --maybe a
| bird?
|
| Maule Driver wrote:
| As soon as I heard East Side, Cirrus, building strike -
I thought low
| time pilot, hot aircraft, many distractions, wrong side
of the VFR
| corridor having do the U-turn.
|
| I've lived on Roosevelt Island (middle of the East River
just south of
| the turn) and flown the corridor in a 172. I early on
decided never to
| fly the East River just because it's too tight and too
filled with
| traffic. It's not unsafe, it's just unnecessarily
challenging when the
| Hudson provides an equivalent experience.
|
| I don't know how you properly train for that flight....
Few of us spend
| much time flying within 1/4 mile of buildings and below
their tops. All
| of us can make the necessary turn at 1,000 feet in Iowa.
Most of us
| will find it catches your breath the first time you do
it at 800 feet in
| a concrete canyon near so many millions of people. Low
ceilings, some
| wind, some rapid fire Laguardia radio work in the
background. It's
| pretty high excitement.
|
| I had flown many hours ridge soaring the Appalachins -
500 feet above
| valley floor, 2 wingspans from the trees, redlining at
155mph, 200 miles
| from homebase. Then I went out west. It took me 3 days
of flying
| before I could get within a 1/4 mile of a Sierra peak,
5,000 feet above
| the valley floor, at 60 mph, 2 miles from takeoff.
Vice-a-versa for
| western pilots flying the eastern hills. It's all in
you head but it's
| all quite real. We already have the knowledge and
skills to do it. We
| just have to get the quivering mass of grey matter to
settle down enough
| to let the training take over.
|
| Gary Drescher wrote:
| Using the East River VFR corridor requires planning
the turn
| carefully--especially since you need to leave an extra
margin in case you
| have to dodge high-density traffic there.
|
| Yep. And not doing so can end up just like a guy in a
used Porsche on a
| rain slicked road - they just don't scramble jets on the
west coast
| while pulling the lifeless remains out of a Meadowlands
swamp.
|
| No point here... just rambling.
|