"Travis Marlatte" wrote in message
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I'm sure you did. The point is that Madison may "control" airspace outside
of the publicly charted terminal area but I can fly through it without be
"controlled."


Yes, you can do that by not calling Madison approach while operating VFR in
the outer area associated with the Madison Class C airspace. But if you do
call them in that situation you will be "controlled". That is the point.



Since the discussion was about the obligations of a VFR pilot to follow
ATC instructions, I don't see how pointing out that Madison is responsible
for that airspace adds any clarity. It's no different that all of the
surrounding airspace that Chicago or Minneapolis Center "controls."


It is significantly different than all of the surrounding airspace that
Chicago or Minneapolis Center "controls." Centers provide only traffic
advisories to VFR aircraft, within the outer area associated with Class C
airspace approach control facilities such as Madison provide separation
between IFR and participating VFR aircraft.