On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:25:01 GMT, "Viperdoc"
wrote:

I was incorrect in the previous post regarding the Baron. I generally keep
the plane on the ground with firm forward stick pressure until reaching
about 120 knots, and then light the RATO packs, followed by immediate gear
retraction, and then pitch up to around 45 degrees. This produces an ROC of
around 4000fpm until reaching the flight levels.

Strangely enough, this reminds me of an EAA meeting this week. Our speaker was a
chapter member who has led the construction of two full-scale ME262s. The
Stormbird was designed as a point-defense fighter so they have a high initial
ROC and a fairly restrictive fuel load (2 hours). The replicas use GE J-85s
and weigh about 6,000 pounds less than the originals...they climb about 7,000
FPM but carry the same fuel.

They flew a 262 to a destination in company with a Cessna Citation. But the
Citation was limited to more prosaic climb rates. The 262's fuel consumption
was so greatly increased by the extra time at lower altitudes that they almost
had to land early....

Ron Wanttaja