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Old November 12th 06, 12:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
karl gruber[_1_]
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Default Gentle take-offs at high speed

I've actually had two PT6A-41s quit on me, both at cruise in a straight
KA200.

Both were non-events, but it certainly has changed the way I think of the
Pilatus PC-12, and what's that other single, TBM 700?

The failure rate for PT6s is unknown since the vast majority are on King
Airs and they simply fly home on one and get the fuel control unit
replaced...............which is the cause of 95% of the failures. So much so
that the singles have manual fuel control units and great big emergency pull
handles.

The other reason the King Air is so good on one engine is the nice big high
lift wing. It's not fast but is sure hauls the load, although I've seen our
350 at 305 Kts @ FL310

Karl
"Curator"


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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At light weight, the 90 thru E90 King Airs do pretty well on
take-off with an engine loss, but at gross they are
definetly under-powered. The F90 has 750 hp and is still a
handful on one engine. I really like the 300-350 King Air,
it will perform just like advertised. An engine failure
before V1 and you stop on the runway. Past V1 you have
performance to continue into the air and to a safe landing.
Having 1050 hp gearbox and a 1700 hp gas generator really
helps. At a light weight, climb rate on two engines is over
4,000 fpm, can't say how much, that is because the rate is
pegged. Didn't have a stopwatch running.
Took off solo one day at Wichita for a short trip south, had
only 2 hours fuel. Departed 1 R at Wichita (1330 MSL) and
did a chandelle on take-off to the right. Rolled out at
9,000 feet MSL still over the airport.


It was very gentle, except I did have to go back to the
baggage compartment after landing in Oklahoma to get my
chart bag, the steep deck angle made it fall down the aisle.



"karl gruber" wrote in message
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
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| I sure hope you're talking about a "game" or PC sim
Baron.
| In the real world, there is no way in hell to keep a
Baron
| on the ground at 100 knots. They want to fly. Fifty
years
| ago, the manual said you lifted off in 600 feet at 60
mph.
| That was well below Vmc and if an engine died, so did
you.
|
| I remember the day Beech sent out a new revision for our
King Air A90. All
| it did was remove the short field takeoff section. Just as
you suggest for
| the Baron.
|
| Karl
| "Curator" N185KG
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