"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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I have a friend that took me for a flight from the Bay Area in California
back to Sacramento (this was before I became a pilot) and upon taking off,
he flew right through a pretty heavy cloud layer. We were in the clouds
for
at least a minute before we broke back out. To this day he still says this
was ok - and he has several arguments why it was not unsafe.

I assume the flight wasn't IFR.

I simply won't fly with him any longer.

It's too bad that not flying with him isn't sufficient to protect ourselves
from his flying!

--Gary