On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 14:31:15 -0400, Stephen Harding
wrote:

You've made a fair point about personal experience versus historical
record, but you're really starting to sound asinine in this effort.

Thanks for your opinion. I note that you didn't make the point,
asinine or not.

I think all will agree there is a place for history and a place for
personal experience. We can probably all agree reading something and
personally experiencing something are not equivalent.

Of course not. I'd never suggested that, although I get the suspicion
that's what Art thinks I believe. It also appears to be an approach
he has erroneously attributed to several other posters on this group,
at least two of which have posted in this thread. If the tone of the
posts annoys you or you find them "asinine", I suggest you take it up
with the poster responsible for initiating the exchange at that level.
I'm happy enough to discuss things on a rational level, and I
genuinely respect Kramer's experience and contribution, but that
appears insufficient to maintain a rational and respectful level of
exchange on his part.

Fine by me, if that's how he prefers it.

We can probably all agree that being told our knowledge is inadequate
because it was not obtained by personal experience, or that your personal
experience is "wrong" or not general, based on someone's readings, can be
annoying in the extreme.

I'd like to know where I've ever done this to anybody, let alone Art
Kramer in particular.

Leave it at that and move on. No killfiling required from anyone!

This isn't the first instance of Art provoking such a reaction, and
your selectivity in responding is notable.

Gavin Bailey

--

"...this level of misinformation suggests some Americans may be
avoiding having an experience of cognitive dissonance."
- 'Poll shows errors in beliefs on Iraq, 9/11'
The Charlotte Observer, 20th June 2003