Newps wrote:


Sam Spade wrote:

Newps wrote:



Sam Spade wrote:


ATC provides separation when working IFR aircraft. The local
controllers' duties are different.



No they are not.


There aren't any VFR towers these days?





You said the local controllers duties are different, saying they do not
provide separation. The local controller ensures initial IFR separation
between IFR arrivals and departures.







"Separation" in the context of IFR

separation is not part of the local job when the Class D area is VFR.




It most certainly is and the weather is irrelevant.


Visual separation of IFR aircraft is no longer used?



You said separation is not part of the local job. IFR separation is
always part of the job. The weather is irrelevant. If visual
separation is used you have to have approved separation both before and
after the application of visual.


When I am cleared for a visual I am told to maintain my own separation.
I guess you are referring to the tower applying visual separation
without telling me?

I still fail to understand where a VFR tower does other than release
aircraft and accept them as the IFR controlling facility tells them.

I understand that local controller at an IFR tower does some limited
separation duties, again in accordance with the IFR controlling agency,
whether it be a TRACON downstairs or a center.

Those duties are quite limited compared to runway and ground movement
activities.