Mxsmanic wrote:
Jay Honeck writes:


You're the one who challenged the facts.


There are no "facts" at issue here.

Nice back pedal when called out.





No one was "crowing" about freedom until you denied its existence
in the United States.


Americans constantly brag about "freedom."


Maybe, but they weren't here when you brought it up. You just spouted
off as usual trying to bait someone into an answer. As usual you were
wrong.


Freedom this, Freedom
that; they love to use the word. Indeed, they talk about it a lot
more than they practice it.

We all practice it everyday by going about our business.





How many TFRs have you flown into?

None.



Have you ever had all your
property seized because someone hinted that you might be doing
something illegal (even if you weren't)?


No.





Has the Secret Service ever
thrown you out of your house or office for Presidential events?


No. And he's been here four times since I've lived here.




There are a lot of bad things that can happen,



So now you state the obvious. That's called life.




and a lot of freedoms
that no longer exist.


Wrong again.



Just because you haven't experienced these bad
things and haven't missed the freedoms that you've lost doesn't make
it okay.

Haven't missed any because I haven't lost any.




Right now my plane is sitting in its hangar, ten minutes from here,
fully fueled and ready to go. If I wished, I could go fly it to
California right now -- a distance of 1350 nautical miles -- without
saying a word to anyone, or asking permission of *any* governmental
body.


Unless you find a TFR surrounding your airport, in which case you
can't go anywhere.

We've always had TFR's. And, like before, if the President shows up to
create an airspace shutdown it is posted in advance. ATC will allow
aircraft to come and go.




Unless you say something that sounds threatening, in which case you
can end up in a Federal prison.


Nonsense.


And if some of these officials don't
like you, they can have you thrown in jail for no particular reason at
all.


Real nonsense.