"Rolling" to ATC
John Theune writes:
Because you have received no training nor have you passed any of the
testing required for the operation of a aircraft.
I haven studied communication with ATC, and that's all that is
required to participate in this discussion. I don't need any tests or
training in the use of flight controls, although I do have the latter
(albeit in simulation).
You're trying to associate one type of skill with a domain to which it
is unconnected. You don't need anything other than a book to learn
ATC communication.
In the course of my study, I've encountered pilots saying "rolling"
when taking off, even though there seems to be no formal recognition
of this phrase. I was curious as to when and why pilots choose to use
it. I don't make a distinction between simulation and real life in
this case because they are both identical in this context.
In this case you are
asking about communication with ATC which for you is also composed of
simulation users who may or may not have received any formal training
and there is just no way of knowing if they are following the same rules
as the ATC that pilots have to deal with.
As I've already explained: (1) many of the controllers in simulation
are also controllers in real life; (2) controllers in simulation
receive training very similar to that used in real life, and generally
use the same reference materials (7110.65 in the U.S., and the AIM);
and (3) my observations here come not only from simulation but also
from listening to real ATC, and from transcripts of real ATC.
Here again, you're trying to make a distinction that doesn't exist.
As you have said so many
times, you don't anything that is said on this group at face value,
therefor why should we?
I don't know. Why should you?
Casey is just making it clear to anyone who
happens into this thread without knowing your background to be wary of
anything you say as it's likely to be wrong.
You haven't explained why anything I say is likely to be wrong.
Frankly, I'm amazed at how clueless many so-called pilots are here.
They argue ceaselessly with each other, and in many cases all of the
"pilots" arguing are wrong--nobody has the right answer. Sometimes
nobody has _any_ answer, just speculation and argument.
It's puzzling because, on the one hand, it seems that the requirements
for becoming a pilot are fairly rigorous, and yet, on the other hand,
many people who claim to be pilots are severely misinformed.
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