"robert arndt" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message
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In message , robert
arndt writes
Tom is starting up again with his pro-Iranian BS. Well Tom, say what
you will but history proves you wrong time after time. The Israelis
have both the will to fight total war and the arsenal to win it.

...for as long as the US keeps signing the cheques.

What check did they sign in 1948?

Well, Washington was the first state to recognize Israel as independent -
which was, BTW, against a UN resolution...

And FYI, aid is not a one way
street. Israel has gathered both intelligence and foreign weapon
systems that has been invaluable to the US for decades- far beyond any
monetary value.

So what? As if the US haven't got much intel anywhere else? (In Iran, just
for example, which was far more important for the USA in the context of the
Cold War). The USA could have gathered far more intel for far less cost
almost anywhere else. Don't forget that such institutions like "Foreign
Technology Divisions" (the name from the 1980s) exist since the WWI....

There is MORE than one reason we support the Jewish
State and it isn't just because of the Jews here in America... so
don't use that old line about check-writing.

[chuckle]...

Besides, Israel doesn't ask our permission to protect its national
security or its citizens.

That's right. Israel doesn't cares about anything - not even really Israel.
During the 1980s the Israeli were selling US-high-tech to Iran. During the
1990s to China...

Recall Entebbe, the Iraqi reactor, Gerald
Bull's assassination, Lebanon, and the current intifada. Israel
doesn't play games- period.

So, and all the others "play games"?

I guess the US G.I.s in Iraq wouldn't share your opinion...

The fact that Israel sat out ODS is
because none of the Scuds had CB warheads.

No, but because the Israeli gov was said to sit down and shut up.

If just one did then Israel
would have struck back regardless of US assurances.

[caugh & chuckle] Yeah, and spoil everything the USA were actually doing for
Israel...

Israel warned both Syria and Iran
well in advance not to attempt any secondary war against the Jewish
State or face the consequences.

Has anybody asked Israel for its opinion? Haven't you ever noticed that
these countries have also warned Israel, or are you always absent when such
news were reported? Is the whole world turning around Israel, or only the
Middle East - in your opinion?

Notice how they did nothing, as usual... except denounce Israel.

Well, several posts above you complained about the Iranians building a
bombs. Besides, I haven't heard about any official communique either from
Tehran or Damasucs where they explained they will not support the
Palestinians or their terrorists against Israel any more.

Perahps you can decide now if they are doing nothing, or at least something
(especially as opposed by 99% of the "Arab" and "Muslim" world)?

Right now, Israel's economy is
suffering and the international pressure to make peace with the
terrorist Palestinians is unbearable.

Israel's own guilt.

But Israel retains its tough
stance and the US is firmly on Israel's side despite frequent
administration "concerns" over the conflict.

We'll join and sing a poem in that name.

I support Israel and the IDF and don't mind at all giving aid to the
Israelis.

That's your full right: after all, you're living in a democracy.

The day we stop aiding Israel will be detrimental to the US.
Judgement on the US is already happening since 9/11. Cutting Israel
off would be far worse. It would be seen in Arab eyes as weakness on
our part and a signal that terrorism does pay in the long run.

Of course. The USA would probably go down...

President Bush won't allow that to happen and neither would any
Republican administration.

Nor will he be a President forever. One like Reagan, and Israel would be far
more carefull about what its actions...

BTW, Robert,
you still owe me all the answers to my open quesitons. Somehow I still don't
see where I was "spreading pro-Iranian BS", or the "history proves me wrong
time after time"?

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq; War in the Air, 1980-1988
http://www.schifferbooks.com/militar...764316699.html

Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585