On Apr 3, 7:35 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Maxwell writes:
When was the last time you experienced vertigo while flying your desk?

I don't experience any motion at all while flying a non-motion sim. Thus, I
have no conditioned responses that would cause me to adjust the controls in
response to various physical sensations.

Sed "conditioned responses" are in fact tremendously valuable
adaptations of real-world pilots. A key part of remaining 'ahead of
the aircraft' so to speak is to train yourself to automatically
respond to upsets before they manifest into major deviations, this is
almost always a direct link between the tactile feedback you receive
from your yoke and your inner ear to muscles to provide control inputs
to the aircraft.

I would venture to say that making a gusty crosswind landing would be
impossible without them.

I depend exclusively on instruments and the view out the window. And that is pretty much as it should be.

Incorrect.

Its funny actually, I'm friends with several CFI's, and if there is
one constant I hear from them about 'simulator jockey' new-starts
(which included myself as a student, mind you) is that they actually
have a hard time divorcing themselves from the instruments and flying
on 'feel'... which means that they tend to take a lot longer to learn
to fly precisely, and often suffer from 'Pilot induced turbulence',
that is, they spend so looking and thinking about their responses,
that in the real dynamic world of aircraft flight their actions are
painfully slow and late- they're constantly 'chasing' the plane
instead of adapting too it.

For my first few lessons actually, I had a quite difficult time until
my instructor learned to keep reminding me to 'get out of the
cockpit', that is, adjust my personal frame of reference so that I
'was' the aircraft, instead of being a person sitting in an aircraft.
As soon as I learned to make this mental leap, my stick skills
improved light-years over just one or two flights.

Ironically, I've found that it was only after I learned to get out of
the cockpit and 'fly the plane' that I had the necessarily reflexes
and skills to 'fly the panel' when I started IFR training.

The 'conditioned responses' you so proudly claim to lack are part of
the fundamental skillsets of a pilot. Learning to fly IMC is learning
how to understand/control them in a sensory-limited and vertigo-
inducing experience.