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Old August 17th 03, 04:40 AM
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"C Knowles" wrote in message ...

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Where do you get this ****?


Why Curt, I do my best to keep my head out of my ass so I don't
confuse all points of view contrary to mine with "****". Thats all you
tend to see when in an HUA position.

Here are some facts Curt.
1. Tankers were over an active SAM environment in Iraq. It made the
news that some of the crews thought it was a risky move. You're in
the business; care to shed some light Curt? Were you there?
2. Much has been written about using the 767-200 and -400 to replace
the C-135 in various missions...Missions that will take them into
contested airspace on a more regular basis as their presence is
considered more and more essential. That means ops over a battlefield
Curt...Guess they will never get shot at though.

What AF doctrine even discusses this?

Some by the name of Jumper has been talking alot about this whole
smart tanker thing. I suppose he could be full of ****. Ever hear of
the guy Curt? http://www.afji.com/ISR/Mags/2002/Issue2/notebook.html

The idea that any large aircraft can routinely "absorb battle damage"

and still remain mission capable is ludicrous.

Wow Curt we agree!! So how far from removed form a battlefield can
GMTI be and still be effective Curt? Maybe such capabilities need to
be on a more survivable platform than a 767. Why must all those people
be aboard that same platform that is carrying the sensors anyway?

Any aircraft of the sort receiveing battle damage is going to RTB immediately.


And you put more of a warfighting role onto the tanker fleet they WILL
eventually be seen as a worthwhile target by an opponent. We can't
count on hashish besotted boobs with an "Inshallah" attitude to be our
adversaries forever Curt.

What you are suggesting, some sort of armored battle-tanker, would be

hugely expensive and there would be little return on investment,
because that capability would be almost never be used.

What I'm suggesting is that instead of considering replacing aging
tankers, its time to be replacing aging concepts.
More use of UAVs, Space, etc.
To be fair, last week's AVleak(I get a bunch of "****" from that
yellow rag Curt)had an article about the Navy's Hairy Buffalo and it
use as a UAV control system as well as its migration into C-130s; an
aircraft built to take some punishment at least.

The more crap a tanker has to carry means that much less fuel for

offload.

You really need to set that Jumper dude straight Curt. His plan of
palletizing comms, elint, ISR, an putting it on tankers is apparently
full of "****"

You've been watching too much 12 O'clock High.

Good movie...haven't seen the tv show in ages. Do you remember who
played Kowalski?