(s.p.i.) wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

The link below shows just how dangerous flying
into a thunderboomer can be. I understand that more
aircraft were lost in Vietnam due to weather than
enemy fire. How accurate is that statement and
did weather also account for more losses than combat
in previous wars (e.g: WW2, Korea, etc?)

http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/f.braaksma/

-Mike Marron

Weather has been the direct cause and indirect contributor to several
helo and UAV losses in OEF and OIF. Its hard to find direct info on
this but wx could well be the leading causal factor in aircraft losses
in those two conflicts

Thanks. Weather continues to be the #1 killer in GA and commercial
aviation.

As an aside, here's a personal story of an F-18 Hornet's
recent recovery by barricade. . at night .. on an aircraft carrier in
the Pacific:

***

[ Note : a barricade is a huge net . . 20 ft high and stretches across
the carrier's deck to 'catch' airplanes during extreme emergencies.]

Oyster, here. This note is to share with you the exciting night I had
the other month. It has nothing to do with me wanting to talk about
me. But it has everything to do with sharing what will no doubt
become a better story as the years go by. So....

There I was .. ' manned up' a hot seat for the 2030 night launch about
500 miles north of Hawaii. I was taxied off toward the carrier's
island where I did a 180 degree turn to get spotted to be the first
one off Catapult # 1. They lowered my launch bar and started the
launch cycle. All systems were ' go' on the runup. And after waiting
the requisite 5 seconds to make sure my flight controls are good to
go, I turned on my lights. As is my habit I shifted my eyes to the
catwalk and watched the deck edge dude and as he started his
routine of looking left, then right. I put my head back against the
head rest.

The Hornet cat shot is pretty impressive. As the cat fires, I stage
the afterburners and am along for the ride. Just prior to the end of
the stroke .. there's a huge flash . . and a simultaneous . .
B-O-O-M ! And my night world is in turmoil.

My little pink body is doing 145 knots or so and is 100 feet above the
black Pacific. And there it stays -- except for the airspeed, which
decreases to 140 knots. Some where in here I raised my gear. And
the throttles aren't going any farther forward despite my
Schwarzze-negerian efforts to make them do so.

From out of the ether I hear a voice say one word: "JETTISON ! "
Rogered that ! And a nano second later my two drops and single
MER, about 4,500 pounds in all, are Black Pacific bound. The airplane
leapt up a bit but not enough. I'm now about a mile in front of the
boat at 160 feet and fluctuating from 135 to 140 knots. The next
comment that comes out of the ether is another one-worder: " EJECT ! "
I'm still flying . . so I respond . . " Not yet . . I've still got
it."

Finally, at 4 miles ahead of the boat, I take a peek at my engine
instruments and notice my left engine . . doesn't match the right. (
Funny, how quick glimpses at instruments get burned into your brain.)
The left rpm is at 48% even though I'm still doing the Ah-Nold thing.
I bring it back out of afterburner to military power. About now I get
another " EJECT ! " call. "Nope . . it's still flying."

At 5 1/2 miles I asked tower to please get the helo headed my way as I
truly thought I was going to be ' shelling out '. At some point, I
thought it would probably be a good idea to start dumping some gas.
But as my hand reached down for the dump switch, I actually
remembered that we had a NATOPS operation prohibition against
dumping fuel while in afterburner. But after a second or two
[contemplating the threat of the unnecessarily burden] I turned the
fuel dump switches on. Immediately [ I was told later ] . . SIXTY FOOT
ROMAN CANDLE . . BEGAN TRAILING BEHIND. At 7 miles I started
a ( very slight ) climb to get a little breathing room. CATCC control
chimes in giving me a downwind [ landing pattern] heading . . and I'm
like: "Ooh . . what a good idea" . . and I throw down my tail hook.

Eventually I get headed downwind to the carrier at 900 feet and ask
for a Tech Rep [Manufacturer's Technical Representative]. While
waiting, I shut down the left engine. But In short order, I hear Scott
"Fuzz" McClure's voice. I tell him the following : " OK Fuzz, my
gear's up . . my left motor's off . . and I'm only able to stay level
by using minimum afterburner. And every time I pull it back to
military power, I start down at about a hundred feet per minute."

I just continue trucking downwind . . trying to stay level . . and
keep dumping fuel. I think I must have been in afterburner for about
fifteen minutes. At ten miles or so I'm down to 5000 pounds of gas
and start a turn back toward the ship. I don't intend to land but I
don't want to get too far away. Of course, as soon I as I stuck in
that angle of bank . . I start dropping like a stone. So I end up
doing a [shallow bank] 5 mile [radius] circle around the ship.

Fuzz is reading me the single engine rate of climb numbers from
the ' book' based on temperature, etc. And it doesn't take us long
to figure out that things aren't adding up. One of the things I'd
learned about the Hornet is that it is a perfectly good single engine
aircraft . . flies great on one motor. So why do I now need blower
[afterburner ] to stay level ?

By this time, I'm talking to the Deputy CAG ( turning [duty] on the
flight deck) and CAG who's on the bridge with the Captain. And we
decide that the thing to do is climb to three thousand feet and '
dirty up' [gear and flaps down] to see if I'm going to have the excess
power needed to be able to shoot a night approach for a landing.

I get headed downwind . . go full burner on my remaining motor . . and
eventually make it to 2000 feet before leveling out below a scattered
layer of puffy clouds. And the 'puffies' are silhouetted against a
half a moon which was really, really cool. I start a turn back toward
the ship . . and when I get pointed in the right direction . . I throw
the gear down and pull the throttle out of after-burner.

Remember that flash/boom! . . that started this little tale ?

[ Repeat it here ] . . Boom ! I jam it back into afterburner, and
after three or four huge compressor stalls [and accompanying
deceleration] the right motor ' comes back'. I'm thinking my blood
pressure was probably ' up there' about now . . and for the first
time, I notice that my mouth has dried up.

This next part is great. You know those stories about guys who
deadstick crippled airplanes away from the orphanages and
puppy stores and stuff and get all this great media attention?
Well, at this point I'm looking at the picket ship in front of me, at
about two miles, and I transmit to no one in particular,
"You need to have the picket ship hang a left right now. I think I'm
gonna be outta here in a second." I said it very calmly but with
meaning. The picket immediately pitched out of the fight. Ha!
I scored major points with the heavies afterwards for this. Anyway,
it's funny how your mind works in these situations.

OK, so I'm dirty and I get it back level and pass a couple miles up
the starboard side of the ship. I'm still in minimum blower and my
fuel state is now about 2500 pounds. Hmmm. I hadn't really thought
about running out of gas. I muster up the gonads to pull it out of
blower again and sure enough...flash, BOOM! I'm thinking that I'm
gonna end up punching out and tell Fuzz at this point " Dude, I really
don't want to try that again." Don't think everyone else got
it . . but he chuckled.

Eventually I discover that even the tiniest throttle movements cause
the ' flash/boom thing ' to happen so I'm trying to be as smooth as I
can. I'm downwind a couple miles when CAG comes up and says,
" Oyster, we're going to rig the barricade."

Remember, CAG's up on the bridge watching me fly around doing
blower donuts in the sky and he's also thinking I'm gonna run outta
JP-5 fuel. By now I've told everyone who's listening that there a
better than average chance that I'm going to be ejecting. (The
helicopter bubbas . . God bless 'em . . have been
following me around this entire time.)

I continue downwind and again, sounding more calm than I probably
was, call the LSO. " Paddles, you up[listening] ?" "Go ahead" replies
" Max" Stout, one of our LSO's. "Max, I probably know most of it ,but
do you want to shoot me the barricade briefing?" So, in about a minute
... he went from expecting me to ' punch out ' .. to have me asking for
the barricade brief [so he was hyperventilating.] But he was awesome
to hear on the radio though . . just the kind of voice you'd want to
hear in this situation.

He gives me the barricade brief. And at nine miles I say, "If I turn
now will ' it ' be up when I get there? Because I don't want to have
to go around again." "It's going up right now, Oyster. Go ahead and
turn." "Turning in, say the final bearing." "Zero six three," replies
the voice in CATCC. " " OK, I'm on a four degree glide slope and I'm
at 800 feet. I will intercept glide slope at about a mile and three
quarters then reduce power. "

When I reduced power : Flash/boom ! [ Add power out of fear.] Going
high ! Pull power. Flash/boom ! [ Add power out of fear.] Going
higher !

[Flashback to LSO school...." All right class, today's lecture will be
on the single engine barricade approach. Remember, the one place
you really, really don't want to be is high. O.K.? You can go play
golf now."] I start to set up a higher than desired sink rate the LSO
hits the " Eat At Joe's" wave-off night lights." Very timely too. I
stroke the AB and cross the flight deck with my right hand on the
stick and my left thinking about the little yellow and black ejection
handle between my legs.

No worries. I cleared that sucker by at least ten feet. By the way my
fuel state at the ball call was [now low] at 1.1. As I slowly climb
out I punched the radio button saying . . again to no one in
particular : " I can do this." I'm in blower still and CAG says, "Turn
downwind." After I get turned around he says, "Oyster, this is gonna
be your last look [at the boat in the dark below] so you can turn in
again as soon as you're comfortable."

I flew the DAY pattern and I lost about 200 feet in the turn and like
a total dumbs_ I look out of the cockpit as I get on centerline and
that " night thing about feeling that I'm too high " grabbed me . .
and [ in error] I pushed down further to 400 feet.

I got kinda irked at myself then as I realized I would now be
intercepting the four degree glide slope in the middle .. with a
flash/boom every several seconds all the way down. Last look at
my gas was 600-and-some pounds [100 gallons] at a mile and a half.
"Where am I on the glide slope, Max ?" I ask. And I and hear a calm
"Roger Ball." I know I'm low because the ILS is waaay up there.


I can't remember what the response was but by now the ball's
shooting up from the depths. I start flying it but before I get a
chance to spot the deck I hear : " Cut, cut, CUT !" I'm really glad I
was a paddles for so long because my mind said to me " Do what
he says Oyster ! " and I pulled it back to idle. (My hook hit 11 paces
from the ramp. The rest is pretty tame. I hit the deck . . skipped the
one, the two and snagged the three wire and rolled into the
barricade about a foot right of centerline.

Once stopped, my vocal cords involuntarily shouted, " VICTORY ! "
The deck lights came on bright . . and off to my right there must have
been a . . ga-zillion cranials and eyes watching.

You could hear a huge cheer across the flight deck. After I open the
canopy and the first guy I see is our huge Flight Deck Chief named
Richards. And he gives me the coolest personal look . . and then two
thumbs up. I will remember all of that forever.

P.S. You're probably wondering what gave motors problems. When
they taxied that last Hornet over the catapult .. they forgot to
remove a section or two of the rubber cat seal. When the catapult
shuttle came back [to hook me up], it removed the cat rubber seal
which was then inhaled by both motors during my catapult stroke. Left
engine basically quit even though the motor is in pretty good shape.
But it was producing no thrust and during the wave-off one of the
LSO's saw "about thirty feet" of black rubber hanging off the left
side of the airplane.

The right motor .. the one that kept running .. had 340 major hits to
all engine stages. The compressor section is trashed . . and best of
all . . it had two pieces of the cat seal [one 2 feet and the other
about 4 feet long] sticking out of the first stage and into the air
intake. God Bless General Electric ! By the way, maintenance data
showed that I was fat on fuel -- I had 380 pounds ( 61 gallons) of gas
when I shut down.

Again, remember this particular number as in ten years [ of story
telling] when it will surely be . . " FUMES MAN . . FUMES . . I TELL
YOU ! "

Oyster, out.

[abridged]