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Old June 12th 07, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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On 2007-06-12 10:43:17 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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On 2007-06-12 01:11:04 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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On 2007-06-12 00:14:09 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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On 2007-06-11 23:50:07 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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On 2007-06-11 23:27:09 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip
said:

Dudley Henriques wrote;

Got a few hours in the 650 way back when. Man, were those
pedals wide apart!! :-))

Yes, good airplane for exploring aerobatics for th eneophyte,
though. Unburstable, except for that prop thing.

That's what got Rollie Cole. Shame.
I miss the old days. I knew a lot of these people up close and
personal.Counting the people we knew on the jet teams and the
rest from the demonstration community, my wife and I have lost
32 friends through the years to low altitude acro
Dudley

Yes. i've lost a few as well. Somehow I managed to survie it
though!

I don't even like doing them at altitude so much these days.
Except for smooth stuff. A freind of mine has just got a Yak 52
and is going nuts in it doing flat spins and what have you..
Gives me a headache just looking at him!

That's weird. I have a friend in Pa. in the financial business
who's into Yaks as well. (Gotta be careful saying this or PETA
will be on my ass here :-)
He has a 52 now and has just bought an 11. I believe he's trying
to put a P&W in the 11 as we speak.
Got another friend in Jersey who's LOA on Mig 21's.
I think the Russians might be invading after all :-)

I'd say we might have some mutual acquantences.


Bertie

Wouldn't surprise me a bit, but fear not if so. Should the Bunyip
become known, his secret is safe and shall remain so.
For your interest, the two people are Seligman and Sutton.

No, don't know them myself, but I think one had A CJ 6 ferried from
Cal a few years ago?

Also, i reckon you also knew a Pinto/ F86 driver that bit off more
than he could chew?

Steve and I knew each other quite well many years ago when he was a
partner in the old Valley Forge Airport in Pa. His partner had a
French wife you had to see to believe. If I remember right (and who
could forget her..her name was Yvette. :-)


Yeah, met her. I worked for him a looong time ago.


God, that goes WAY back. :-))
I used to fly with Alex Perez if you remember him from Valley Forge.
we got drunk together one night over at the VF Country Club, went out
to the end of the runway and drove copper nails into a huge tree right
in the middle of the approach path. That tree had been driving us all
nuts for a long time :-)
Not sure if the tree died or was cut down when the airport was sold
later on. Alex was killed off in a war and I had moved on to bigger
things. Steve was still the FBO there when I left.


No, don't know Alex. Never was waround that part of the world much, except
I did have an airplane at Toughkenemon (sp?) for a while and did know Lex &
John Dupont. imagine my surprise to see John on CNN one morning! Actually,
I wasn't that surprised.. Also was in PGC with Steven for a while, but he
wouldn't know me from Adam.



If I remember right, Steve's Sabre was a Sabre 6. They extended the
leading edges and replaced the LE Slats on the 6. He might have gotten
it into a 3000 ft. strip behind the curve , but getting it out again
would have been a whole new ball game. You over rotate the 86 on
takeoff and you can easily pull it into drag rise. If you do that, the
damn thing will just sit there on the runway and it's the California
Ice Cream Parlor all over again.
I would think twice about taking an 86 out of a 3K strip. The FAA LOA
(I'm assuming he was LOA quald in the Sabre but with the FAA who knows
:-) guy was probably right.


Oh yeah. The FAA guy was a poacher turned gamekeeper and knew what he was
talking about.



The 262 project is indeed something else. I think he had to use the
old bird at Willow Grove for a template, and the deal as we heard it
anyway was that he had to restore it to museum quality. I don't know
where that airplane is today but I'll bet it looks better than it did
the last time I saw it sitting these by the fence at WG :-)
Dudley



Yeah, ythat's right. That's the one I sat in. That was years after I'd seen
him last, though. I don't know if they got the airplane back to the navy or
not.

I used to work for Albie, btw... most of my flying in tht area was at Van
Sant, though..


those were the days..





Bertie