"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in message
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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"F. Baum" wrote:

On Nov 27, 8:43 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Many of us have a great successful career without every being a member
of a union. In fact, most Americans are not union members. In fact,
the top paying jobs in the U.S. are non-union. So I think your point
is countered.

Robert, you rascal ! I love your simplistic answers. Lets take a look
at things that didnt exist before organized labor; Child labor laws,
healt care benifits, 40 Hour work weeks, severance, paid vacation,
benifits packages, retirement, DC plans,overtime and the list goes
on................ If you had a great career with any of these benies
you can thank organized labor
FB

You are assuming that these "benies" exist because of organized
labor.

Question: what laws would continue to exist if unions went away
and what laws would go away?

And which would have evolved naturally with increased productivity and
increased expertise in management (that had been going on for a couple
hundred years). That's out of Baum's mental grasp, unfortunately.
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Funny thing is, you are all right. Everything mentioned here both pro and
con has contributed to the wages paid in this country today for most every
job. Child labor laws, health care benefits, 40 Hour work weeks, severance,
paid vacation, benefits packages, retirement, overtime pay, minimum wage,
etc, etc. It's all had a balancing effect on the wages we all draw every
day. Without unions we would all be working for less, no matter what our
profession. Unions balance the booty between the CEO and his cronies, and
the worker bees. It's that simple. Comparing upper management salaries in
the airline business to many of the fortune 500 companies are a good
example. Unions have been very successful in keeping the worker bees on a
level playing field with management. Other industries have gone quite the
opposite. Non union job work places and imports have been very successful,
even in the airline business, of offering competitive products and services
to the consumer, that greatly limit how much unions gain by bargaining
alone. The real problem now is dilution of the work force. The mass transit
system we call a southern border is adding to the number of worker bees so
fast, everything gain by the unions in the past 70 or 80 years is being lost
very quickly. Health benefits being the first to fall.