Jim, in places like New York, more specifically Long Island, with its
thousands of teachers, some earning -- ready for this? -- $100,000
plus a year (speaking of effective union negotiations!) the number who
are discharged after being tenured is very very small. Those who are
jailed for sex with students do lose their jobs though.

I know of no other profession where people at the one percentile of
effectiveness are retained and given the same salary increases as
those at the 95th percentile.

Although I live and work in NC, I don't know that much about the
public school system here. The little I do know about it is often
awful, but this is not the venue for that discussion.




On Nov 28, 12:38 am, "Morgans" wrote:
"Tina" wrote

Sometimes, though, people who are consistantly underperforming, if
training doesn't help, need to be discharged, and that can't be done
with tenure protected teachers in public school systems for example.

That is a subject that many people do not understand.

A tenured teacher is not totally protected, from being discharged for under
performing. Most people do not understand that fact.

It is true that it is more difficult to do, but if concrete reasons do
exist, the teacher is informed, written and through a conference with
administrators, of the areas of inadequate performance and possible ways to
bring the performance up to standards. If in one year, progress has not
been made, they can be dismissed.
--
Jim in NC