Cub Driver wrote:

Yes, after all these years, I flushed Art down the toilet as a result
of this thread. He took 64 messages with him! And I clean out my
message software every day.

r.a.m. will certainly be easier to read from now on.

To each his own, but I think you'll be missing some good stuff by not
reading Art.

Always need to read him in context and in character, which should be
well known to all here by now.

Although he can be awfully harsh at times (e.g. this thread), I see it
as a time portal on attitudes that seem to have been largely replaced in
modern American society.

With Art, you flew what you had, even if it wasn't the best, or someone
somewhere was screwing up, or you weren't feeling good, or you were
experiencing mental weakness. Just do the job and stop complaining.
"Collateral damage"? Tough luck! Life is cruel!

Not that the military is limp kneed now days, but there seems to be a
lack of endurance for the task. Always someone at fault for something
not being perfect. Perhaps it was always so, but is now done more openly.

I saw some soldiers in Iraq complaining about being stuck there too
long. One claimed during an ABC interview that the Army "had lied to
him". He wasn't going to reup as a result.

For me, Art is a relict of a time when a people were united to do a
tough and dirty job, and just simply went to it. No excuses, no belly
aching, no one else's fault, and extremely unforgiving to anyone who
wasn't towing the line.

Overall, I think it is fortunate for the nation that we have had people
with such attitudes. Just seems so anachronistic now days, and certainly
very harsh at times.

I think r.a.m would lose a lot if Art flew off somewhere else and never
posted here again.


SMH