From: "Emmanuel Gustin"

There is nothing wrong with having different values and opinions,
as long as you are capable of respecting each other and having
a healthy debate. If that fails, then friendship, alliance, and
ultimately democracy itself will break down, even down to the
point of Civil War.

I get the sense from reading your posts that see Europe as representing
"Kultur" while America represents "Zivilisation." Now you speak of a Civil War
of the West, presumably between Europe and America. The fact that an educated
person would seriously raise this as a possibility is too depressing to comment
on. I thought this was 2003, not some writ large version of 1903.


Chris Mark