From: Hobo

My point is that the Russians were willing to give Nazi Germany all the
help they asked for. Nothing the Russians did was to help anyone else.
Everything the US did was of no direct benefit to the US and was only
done to help the world. The French and Russians can't say that and the
French can't even say that they fought very hard.

Stalin was buying time. As screwy as he was he knew war was inevitable yet was
surprised when the invasion started.

The U.S. may have helped but there is no way you can say it had no direct
benefit to the U.S. since war with Germany was also inevitable once the Germans
declared war on the U.S. 11 December 1941. The French soldiers fought extremely
hard but failed due to poor leadership.

I have no love for most things French. Unlike you I have bothered to learn what
actually happened. The French and British had a plan of action based on no
attack through the Ardennes. They stuck to it ridgidly until it was too late.

If you think the U.S. planning was near perfect how come the Germans managed to
attack through the same place the Brits and French thought they couldn't 3
years before? Remember the battle of the bulge? The Germans went through the
Ardennes. They pushed right through American forces there as easily as they
had done the French earlier. Are you going to tell us the U.S. forces didn't
fight very hard?

Your conclusions aren't based on ground combat experience, are they?

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired