Chad Irby wrote:

:In article ,
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: Chad Irby wrote:
:
: :But you should have a fairly concrete faith in aerodynamics, especially
: :with an airframe that's already *flying*.
:
: Final F-35C aircraft are already flying? Since when?
:
:Early F-35 aircraft are already flying, and there's no way in hell
:there's going to be enough change in the next year or so to knock 1/3
ff of their range.

F-35C aircraft? What's their ACTUAL range? Have you seen it
published anywhere? What load and what profile?

:If there was anything lke that sort of defect in
:the aircraft, the more annoying Proxmire-types in Congress would be
:soiling themselves in delight.

If they were told.

: Yes, but what you CAN'T predict is what you're going to have to change
: to make the thing actually work in real service. Those changes will
: impact many things, including range, payload, fuel load, etc. It's a
: fairly simple thing called "reality".
:
:And, once again, you still haven't managed to mention any aircraft in
:the last twenty years or so that's been off by even 20% in combat
:radius, never mind the 33% you're claiming it's going to be for the
:F-35.

Pardon me, but where the hell did I claim that? What ARE you smoking?
So far, all you've put forward is a comparison between apples and
aardvarks. Handwaving predictions of ranges for the F-35C. What's
the actual range, since the data is so solid and all?

:Hell, a 10% miss on any of the performance targets would be
:getting headlines in Aviation Week...

So, what tactical radius is the F-35C demonstrating? What loads?
What flight profiles?

What? You don't have that data? Me either, which is sort of my
point. There's marketing and then there's what you can actually do
with the airplane. I'm more interested in the latter. You appear to
want to insist that the former is gospel.

: To listen to you, test flight programs are totally unnecessary.
: Sorry, but our present reality seems to strongly indicate otherwise.
:
:Well, not that you've bothered to listen in the first place...

Given your demonstrated inability to read, above, I think you've just
committed some sort of metal. Say, ironic.

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