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Old February 7th 04, 04:56 PM
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The Tu-104 was in service before the Comet 4 and 707
for sure.


The Tu-104 began passenger operations in September 1956.



I once flew to Moscow in one during the
mid 70's , strange aircraft with that glazed nose one
almost expected to see a bombardier sitting there.


The Tu-104 was essentially a modified Tu-16 bomber.

The 707 was essentially a modified bomber too. Uncle Sam

paid
for
the
development.

No, the Boeing 707 was never a bomber.

They took a lot from previous Boeing bombers. Look at the wings

of
some
of
them. What a give away. A company that is making bombers,
essentially
large transports, of course would fall back on the technology

they
are
familiar with. They didn't forget it, pretend it wasn't there

and
start
all
over again.

Previous Boeing jet bombers, B-47 and B-52, all had swept-back

high
wings
suited to bombers, which are unlike the low to swept-back mid-wing
design
of
the Boeing 707 series suited to airliners.

Fighter aircraft also have wings, but that certainly does not make

them
bombers either.

Boeing's experience in producing bombers AND airliners does not

make
a
Boeing airliner a non-existant Boeing bomber.

Most of the bomber experience was transferred over to the 707. The

wings
are virtually the same angle and shape. In reality Uncle Sam paid

the
lions
share of the 707s development.

Even if it that were true, and it isn't (details about wet wings and

so
forth), it still would not make the Boeing 707 a bomber.


The 707 was not designed to be a bomber, but a hell of a lot of bomber
know-how and technology, paid for by uncle Sam, went into it. Some
countries took civilian projects into public ownership, the USA did it

but
in a rather different way.

If GM and Ford come up with a fuel cell car, Uncle Sam overtly paid for

the
research for that one.


A whole lot of research and development which went into the WWII bombers
came from the earlier civilian airliners and cargo aircraft. A whole lot

of
research and development which came from the earlier civilian airliners

and
cargo aircraft, went into the WWII bombers, and went back into civilian
airliners after the war. None of which changes the fact that the Boeing

707
was not a bomber and did benefit from all aeronautical research on all

types
of aircraft.


Mainly bombers