On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:43:11 -0500, D. Strang wrote:
"Paul J. Adam" wrote

Did anyone ever actually find that shredder? It was "alleged" by a
"defector" who "heard it from other dissidents" - turns out nobody ever
actually saw it, nobody ever found it, nobody can name anyone fed
through it.

Yea, same with the Jews in Eastern Europe. No one really saw the
ovens working, and what the hell, most of them didn't have proper
birth certificates filed with the government, so they probably really
didn't exist.

Well, no. There is numerous evidence that the holocaust happened,
from named witnesses. There are many documented, named people who
perished in the gas chambers. There are documented, named people who
worked in Nazi death camps where the gas chambers were located.
Finally, and most tellingly, there is the physical evidence of the
death camps and gas chambers themselves.

There are no names for this supposed Iraqi people shredder: no names
of people killed in the shredder, no names of witnesses, no names of
people operating the shredder, no physical evidence that the
shredder existed.

There is no doubt that Saddam was guilty of many murders and other
crimes, and his government behaved brutally. It's not necessary to
repeat unproven allegations as fact.

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