"Kurt R. Todoroff" wrote in message
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My first post to this subject challenged the previous poster to
substantiate
his assertion which contradicted my empirical experiences. The
subsequent
responses to my first post have been littered with opinion and emotion,
and
have lacked objectivity.

I see now. Your assertions are from empirical evidence, but others' are
"opinion and emotion".

'My' empirical evidence trumps 'yours' every time, so naturally it would
be pointless to continue this merry-go-round. Unless you have something
to offer which truly is objective.


Jack


Reread my post. You'll see that I said experiences, not evidence. The
distinction is not subtle.

Kevin, and the poster with whom I differed, don't have military flying
experience. They were each offering an observer's opinion, which I
respect,
even though I disagree with them. Kevin's posting did indeed contain an
emotional argument, but not because I said so.

Emotional argument? I don't think so. What I saw come of that exchange was
that we were looking at it from different viewpoints, and even have a
different view of the meaning of "danger". You seem to have lumped all "bad
things" that can happen into the "its your own fault" category, while I see
that there are many "bad things" that can happen that occur despite the
individuals best and correct actions. And you will note that I characterized
military training under a broad umbrella when it cam to the "train as you
fight" description--not just pilot-stuff. The fact is that the average
military person is exposed to about the same overall "threat" as any of us
are in terms of your example of highway fatalities, etc.; but he may
typically *add* to that overall recipe by also performing military training
that incurs additional risks, often from sources he has no personal control
over.

Now, you may find all of that "emotional"--I tend to think it is just common
sense.


You too, are proceeding from an emotional position. Your postings clearly
indicate that, at the least you are antagonistic, at most you are looking
for a
fight. I encourage you to be a positive contributor to this newsgroup,
instead
of the instigator that you have revealed yourself to be.

If you disagree with my original posting, feel free to make your best
case, and
point out the flaws in my reasoning. Feel free to share your personal
military
flying experiences as well. As I previously said to you, your posting
lacks
civility. You would do well to adopt a more conciliatory tone in your
postings.

Oh, Gawd...not another "you don't/haven't flown for a living, so you can't
have an opinion" type? You apparently have more in common with Kramer than
you might like to admit...

Brooks




Kurt Todoroff