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Old March 23rd 05, 02:15 PM
Steve Foley
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Default GA Terror Threat

Interesting that they consider a security breach by the media as more likely
than a plane being stolen and used in an attack





TO: All Massachusetts Airports

FROM: Arthur G. Allen, Chairman

DATE: March 22, 2005

New information from Homeland Security and the Transportation Security
Administration indicate that recently intercepted telephone traffic and
other intelligence suggest that there may be an elevated risk for General
Aviation Airports and the small aircraft fleet. We at the MAC have asked for
your cooperation before on this matter and we are back with a new emphasis.
We are now under two threats. First, there is a real attempt to use a stolen
aircraft in a terrorist event. Even more likely, as shown on television last
week, is an attempt to demonstrate a lack of security by a media outlet.

Newspapers and television stations have tried around the country and, on
many occasions, have succeeded in compromising General Aviation airport's
security measures. If a station is able to broadcast footage showing
reporters around aircraft that are not secure, or are able to film from an
Aircraft Operating Area (AOA) without being challenged, we have failed. We
must be sure that people are challenged if they do not have an ID badge.
This is critical. A real incident or a media manufactured incident would not
speak well for general aviation security.

Please notify user groups and staff as soon as possible to:

· Lock all cockpits, remove keys from ignitions and secure aircraft from
flight;

· Wear ID badge on the entire airport property and (AOA);

· Challenge anyone on a ramp (AOA) to show you an authorized ID badge;

· Report unauthorized (unbadged) people to airport management or security
immediately. (This must be done when in doubt);

· If you see a film crew on the airport, ask them who they are and whether
they have received permission from the airport manager to film. Ask for ID
badges. If they do not produce badges, usher them off the airports and alert
the local police.Newspaper reporters are not authorized to breach security
by entering the AOA. See a badge or see them out;

· Don't allow an unidentified person to pass by you because you think
challenging them is someone else's job. If you want to preserve our freedom
to fly without additional burdens and restrictions being forced upon us, it
is everyone's job to insist in security measures. Don't cause the general
aviation industry to be impacted because you were embarrassed to ask someone
for a badge or too complacent to lock your aircraft. We are all counting on
each other.

Please be aware of planned security tests by the Massachusetts State Police
and others. They are coming soon to your airport again, (you are now on
notice).

Call us at the MAC with questions at (617) 973-8881. "Do not assume
anything. Lock up and challenge everyone. Please!"


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Old March 23rd 05, 02:51 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:15:27 GMT, "Steve Foley"
wrote in
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Lock up and challenge everyone. Please!"


Welcome to the 21st century. :-(


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Old March 23rd 05, 03:13 PM
Gig 601XL Builder
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:PZd0e.33768$FB6.23976@trndny09...
Interesting that they consider a security breach by the media as more
likely
than a plane being stolen and used in an attack



First, way to go Mr. Allen. Who'd have thought a Mass government official
would have such a clue.

Second, the threat from the media is probably a factor of 1,000,000 greater
than that of terorists.

Gig


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Old March 23rd 05, 05:21 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:%Pe0e.3085$Dz4.1955@okepread01...

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:PZd0e.33768$FB6.23976@trndny09...
Interesting that they consider a security breach by the media as more
likely
than a plane being stolen and used in an attack



First, way to go Mr. Allen. Who'd have thought a Mass government official
would have such a clue.

Second, the threat from the media is probably a factor of 1,000,000

greater
than that of terorists.

The same media that has been big-time cheerleaders for the terrorists!!!

--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


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Old March 24th 05, 03:58 PM
Jay Honeck
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The same media that has been big-time cheerleaders for the terrorists!!!

For sure.

Although I have been amazed to see, in recent days, some sporadic coverage
of the Iraqi people rising up and fighting the "insurgents" (AKA:
terrorists) in their midst. And even some of the "news magazines" are
starting to admit that maybe, just maybe, Bush has been right about a few
things in the way he's handling the Middle East.

Perhaps there is some hope that the media types will actually start
reporting the news more completely -- although I'm not holding my breath.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old March 24th 05, 04:35 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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The same media that has been big-time cheerleaders for the terrorists!!!


For sure.

Although I have been amazed to see, in recent days, some sporadic coverage
of the Iraqi people rising up and fighting the "insurgents" (AKA:
terrorists) in their midst.


"How can you be an "insurgent" in someone else's country? Yet despite the
fact that the wave of terrorism in Iraq is led by an outside terrorist who
is murdering Iraqis, our media still calls his terror campaign an
"insurgency." -- Thomas Sowell, 02/23/2005

Perhaps there is some hope that the media types will actually start
reporting the news more completely -- although I'm not holding my breath.


Don't!!


  #7  
Old March 23rd 05, 08:15 PM
Colin W Kingsbury
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:%Pe0e.3085$Dz4.1955@okepread01...

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:PZd0e.33768$FB6.23976@trndny09...
Interesting that they consider a security breach by the media as more
likely
than a plane being stolen and used in an attack


First, way to go Mr. Allen. Who'd have thought a Mass government official
would have such a clue.


This is the Massachusetts Aeronautical Commission, which is pretty much 100%
aligned with GA since that's all they get to run. Logan Int'l and Hanscom
Field are run by the much-larger Massport, which would be indistinguishable
from a parody of itself.

Of course, Massport would likely agree with MAC's sentiment, since the media
are pretty much their only natural predator. Reporters have gotten a lot
more Massport officials fired than terrorists have.

-cwk.


  #8  
Old March 23rd 05, 04:40 PM
Peter MacPherson
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What a bunch of crap. How much of this "intel" is made up so they
can look like they're doing something. Pathetic.....


"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:PZd0e.33768$FB6.23976@trndny09...
Interesting that they consider a security breach by the media as more
likely
than a plane being stolen and used in an attack





TO: All Massachusetts Airports

FROM: Arthur G. Allen, Chairman

DATE: March 22, 2005

New information from Homeland Security and the Transportation Security
Administration indicate that recently intercepted telephone traffic and
other intelligence suggest that there may be an elevated risk for General
Aviation Airports and the small aircraft fleet. We at the MAC have asked
for
your cooperation before on this matter and we are back with a new
emphasis.
We are now under two threats. First, there is a real attempt to use a
stolen
aircraft in a terrorist event. Even more likely, as shown on television
last
week, is an attempt to demonstrate a lack of security by a media outlet.

Newspapers and television stations have tried around the country and, on
many occasions, have succeeded in compromising General Aviation airport's
security measures. If a station is able to broadcast footage showing
reporters around aircraft that are not secure, or are able to film from an
Aircraft Operating Area (AOA) without being challenged, we have failed. We
must be sure that people are challenged if they do not have an ID badge.
This is critical. A real incident or a media manufactured incident would
not
speak well for general aviation security.

Please notify user groups and staff as soon as possible to:

· Lock all cockpits, remove keys from ignitions and secure aircraft from
flight;

· Wear ID badge on the entire airport property and (AOA);

· Challenge anyone on a ramp (AOA) to show you an authorized ID badge;

· Report unauthorized (unbadged) people to airport management or security
immediately. (This must be done when in doubt);

· If you see a film crew on the airport, ask them who they are and whether
they have received permission from the airport manager to film. Ask for ID
badges. If they do not produce badges, usher them off the airports and
alert
the local police.Newspaper reporters are not authorized to breach security
by entering the AOA. See a badge or see them out;

· Don't allow an unidentified person to pass by you because you think
challenging them is someone else's job. If you want to preserve our
freedom
to fly without additional burdens and restrictions being forced upon us,
it
is everyone's job to insist in security measures. Don't cause the general
aviation industry to be impacted because you were embarrassed to ask
someone
for a badge or too complacent to lock your aircraft. We are all counting
on
each other.

Please be aware of planned security tests by the Massachusetts State
Police
and others. They are coming soon to your airport again, (you are now on
notice).

Call us at the MAC with questions at (617) 973-8881. "Do not assume
anything. Lock up and challenge everyone. Please!"




  #9  
Old March 23rd 05, 09:06 PM
jsmith
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Forget all that.
Just shoot them.
They can identify themselves later.

Steve Foley wrote:
Please notify user groups and staff as soon as possible to:

· Lock all cockpits, remove keys from ignitions and secure aircraft from
flight;

· Wear ID badge on the entire airport property and (AOA);

· Challenge anyone on a ramp (AOA) to show you an authorized ID badge;

· Report unauthorized (unbadged) people to airport management or security
immediately. (This must be done when in doubt);

· If you see a film crew on the airport, ask them who they are and whether
they have received permission from the airport manager to film. Ask for ID
badges. If they do not produce badges, usher them off the airports and alert
the local police.Newspaper reporters are not authorized to breach security
by entering the AOA. See a badge or see them out;

· Don't allow an unidentified person to pass by you because you think
challenging them is someone else's job. If you want to preserve our freedom
to fly without additional burdens and restrictions being forced upon us, it
is everyone's job to insist in security measures. Don't cause the general
aviation industry to be impacted because you were embarrassed to ask someone
for a badge or too complacent to lock your aircraft. We are all counting on
each other.

Please be aware of planned security tests by the Massachusetts State Police
and others. They are coming soon to your airport again, (you are now on
notice).

Call us at the MAC with questions at (617) 973-8881. "Do not assume
anything. Lock up and challenge everyone. Please!"



  #10  
Old March 24th 05, 10:44 AM
Tim Kemp
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jsmith wrote in message .. .
Forget all that.
Just shoot them.
They can identify themselves later.


Or, once they've been challenged and escorted off the ramp, walk them
right back on again and take them flying.

More flies with honey etc.

TK
 




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