Raptor vs Eagle

George Patterson wrote:
john smith wrote:

So where can I find out how F-15/F-16/F-18 do against MiG-29, Su-31,
Mirage, Eurofighter, Griffon?

The USAF has a base out west someplace where they compete against them.
Might be
the "Top Gun" school.

http://www.nellis.af.mil/red_flag/index.htm

Hilton

"W P Dixon" wrote
Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

Patrick, just what is a "student SPL"?

Bob Moore

student Sport Pilot Figured it was about time to learn how to fly

Patrick


"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"W P Dixon" wrote
Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

Patrick, just what is a "student SPL"?

Bob Moore

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"W P Dixon" wrote
Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

Patrick, just what is a "student SPL"?

Bob Moore


He's training for his LSA.

Yep,
But with all the driving I do to fly sometimes I feel I am training for an
over the road license instead!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"W P Dixon" wrote
Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

Patrick, just what is a "student SPL"?

Bob Moore


He's training for his LSA.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message
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George Patterson wrote:

gregg wrote:


That 8 to one ratio was not against planes of equal capability. You
cannot count on the bad guys having planes only as capable as the
F-15/F-16.


Well, at the present time, you can count on them flying something
inferior to the F-15/F-16. Given the economic situation in Russia, it
doesn't look like Sukhoi or MiG is going to be changing that anytime
soon.

So where can I find out how F-15/F-16/F-18 do against MiG-29, Su-31,
Mirage, Eurofighter, Griffon?



Well in the Desert Shield/Storm F-15s kicked the crap out of Iraqi Mig-29s.
Including one kill where a 15C literally maneuvered the -29 into the ground.

That doesn't count!!!
I mean against a pilot from a real country, one that has been trained to
think for themselves.

So where can I find out how F-15/F-16/F-18 do against MiG-29, Su-31,
Mirage, Eurofighter, Griffon?

The USAF has a base out west someplace where they compete against
them. Might be the "Top Gun" school.

Top Gun is Navy and the base is in the desert now, no longer at Miramar.

USAF used to be Red Flag at Nellis.
Navy is now at NAS Fallon NV.

"W P Dixon" wrote in message
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Hmmmm,
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As for the Raptor it is a kick butt aircraft,

We had one once sigh: (search google for "avro arrow").

But somebody told us to quit the program and cut up the six that existed,
for scrap. Probably because it was 20 years ahead of anything *they* had at
the time. So our aerospace program died overnight, and most of the
aerospace jobs and the aerospace brains moved someplace else, guess where.

The nominal reason for the program shutdown was cost, but not too many
believe it.

So don't let that happen to you, otherwise Canada might get a chance to
start a military-aircraft program back up....with your people and your
technology. Or maybe China will ;-).

"john smith" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

Well in the Desert Shield/Storm F-15s kicked the crap out of Iraqi
Mig-29s. Including one kill where a 15C literally maneuvered the -29 into
the ground.

That doesn't count!!!
I mean against a pilot from a real country, one that has been trained to
think for themselves.


Sure they do. Those pilots were trained by the USSR and at the time members
of the 4th Largest military in them world. If number ~3 against number 4
doesn't count what does.

I hope it never happens here,
As long as a US company stays a US company it probably won't. The Arrow
was a nice looking plane Don't feel to bad budget cuts hurt our programs
as well..C-17 was almost lost several times. Defense contracting has lots of
games to play and hoops to go through..part of the biz I guess in any
country.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Icebound" wrote in message
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"W P Dixon" wrote in message
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Hmmmm,
...
As for the Raptor it is a kick butt aircraft,

We had one once sigh: (search google for "avro arrow").

But somebody told us to quit the program and cut up the six that existed,
for scrap. Probably because it was 20 years ahead of anything *they* had
at the time. So our aerospace program died overnight, and most of the
aerospace jobs and the aerospace brains moved someplace else, guess where.

The nominal reason for the program shutdown was cost, but not too many
believe it.

So don't let that happen to you, otherwise Canada might get a chance to
start a military-aircraft program back up....with your people and your
technology. Or maybe China will ;-).