Calls on the radio

Emily wrote:

But French Lick! Now THERE'S an airport I haven't heard mentioned in
forever!

That's because we're all from Hanover.

If in doubt I usually go with whatever is used on the ATIS or AWOS.
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of Flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.


Pascal wrote:
Hello,

This might have been brought up in the newsgroup before but I couldn't
find anything about it.

When going to a new airport, the AD would have sometimes something like :
Monroe County Airport, Bloomington, IN

What call should I do ?
Monroe County tower, Cessna XXXX ...
or
Bloomington tower, Cessna XXXX ...

Usually if I listen to what's being said on the frequency before I talk
I could figure it out, but sometimes some airports don't have that much
traffic and it's a little harder to know what is the proper thing to say.


Thanks

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Yeah, I thought so too, but the folks at Willow Run (in Michigan)
didn't care for me calling them "Yipsilanti Tower" a few weeks ago.


Towers are USUALLY addressed by the name of the primary municipality served.
By the way, the community of Willow Run is closer to the field than the city
of Ypsilanti.

It's every which way. If you don't know, just muffle it and use what
they reply back with.

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...

Define "usually".


More often than any other.



Only two of the towered airports here in the Puget Sound area follow that
rule. Sea-Tac (serving Seattle), Boeing Field (serving Seattle), Paine
Field (serving Everett) all use the name of the airport. The only places
where the municipality served is used to address the tower, the
municipality name is actually *part* of the airport name (Olympia Airport
and Bellingham Airport).


Cities having more than one towered airport are probably the primary reason
it's "usually" and not "always".



My experience has been that the towers I've talked to (from coast to
coast) generally follow the rule that the airport name is used to address
the tower. Even that gets a little sketchy, if the airport has more than
one name for example (Boeing Field is aka King County International
Airport, while Paine Field is aka Snohomish County Airport). But
generally speaking, the only time I've used the municipality name to
address the tower is when that name is actually part of the airport name.


Your observation will change as you gain experience.



Going by the actual name of the airport has been MUCH more reliable for me
than the rule of thumb you suggest would have been.


I didn't suggest anything.

Yeah, I thought so too, but the folks at Willow Run (in Michigan)
didn't care for me calling them "Yipsilanti Tower" a few weeks ago.

Towers are USUALLY addressed by the name of the primary municipality served.
By the way, the community of Willow Run is closer to the field than the city
of Ypsilanti.

So why is the airport called "YIP"?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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So why is the airport called "YIP"?


It isn't. It's called Willow Run Airport.

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

Took your A**hole pills today, I see, Stephen?


No. I see you're still imperceptive.



That is the second backhand
I have seen from you today.


What do you consider to be the first and how do you define "backhand"?

("Steven P. McNicoll" wrote)
Took your A**hole pills today, I see, Stephen?

No. I see you're still imperceptive.


S.P.M. hits a well placed backhand, on the lob by Jim in NC, to break serve.


Montblack g

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
ink.net...
Define "usually".

More often than any other.

Well, then you are incorrect. In the Puget Sound alone there are more
airports NOT addressed by the municipality name than that are.

Cities having more than one towered airport are probably the primary
reason it's "usually" and not "always".

Wrong. There is only one towered airport in Everett, WA, and yet the tower
is not addressed as "Everett Tower". In Orlando, FL, where there are at
three towered airports, one IS addressed as "Orlando". There are so many
exceptions to your "rule" than the rule you're claiming is useless.

Your assertions are based on your own lack of knowledge and wishful
guesswork. They are hardly the product of actual information.

Your observation will change as you gain experience.

No, it won't. I have sufficient experience flying all over the US to know
what "usually" is the case. And what IS usually the case is that towered
airports are addressed by their NAME. The municipality is irrelevant,
except inasmuch as it is often used as the NAME of the airport.

Telling someone to always use the municipality just because you believe
towered airports are usually named based on the municipality is stupid. I
might as well tell people to call their computer operating system "Windows"
just because most computers use Windows, even though the actual useful rule
would be to look and see what operating system is actually in use.

Going by the actual name of the airport has been MUCH more reliable for
me
than the rule of thumb you suggest would have been.

I didn't suggest anything.

Of course you did. You certainly didn't state any sort of actual reliable
method for determining an answer to the original question. You were either
lying (which I don't believe is the case), or you were making a suggestion
as to how the original question might be answered.

I challenge you to demonstrate that in fact it is more reliable to use the
municipality name than the airport name to address the tower. All you have
to do is produce a list of every towered airport in the US, including their
name, the municipality, and the name used to address the tower and calculate
the percentage of that list in which the airport name matches the tower
address, and in which the municipality name matches the tower address. If
your rule is the correct one, then the percentage of matches for the
municipality name will be greater than the percentage of matches for the
airport name.

I'm sure that you cannot provide this data.

Pete