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  #121  
Old October 17th 06, 10:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Peter Duniho
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"Wade Hasbrouck" wrote in message
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Ire or not, if your strobes are the installed anticollision lights, then
they must be on while you are operating the aircraft.


Are there any planes that have only strobes?


Yes. I know of two owned by people in these newsgroups (my own airplane,
and Ron and Margy Natalie's airplane) for sure, and it's not exactly an
uncommon situation.

Pete


  #122  
Old October 18th 06, 01:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"A Lieberma" wrote

Thanks Jim, ((a different jim than Jim in NC))

I think I had tried that and on the second message, the URL got
truncated in a different position.

Instead of using the backspace, I was deleting the last charactor of the
line, and re-inserted the deleted charactor.

No biggie, not normal that I post such long URL's anyway, just hate
nuicance things since I am suppose to be smarter then the computer. :-)


Did you try the before and after the link trick?
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Jim in NC

  #123  
Old October 18th 06, 03:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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In rec.aviation.student Wade Hasbrouck wrote:
For the record, I turn on the rotating beacon, when I get to the item in the
check list that says "Master Switch on.", and turn it off during the
"Securing the airplane" checklist.


In the plane I use (school plane), the switch for the beacon and the
strobes is a split switch. We just leave the beacon on all the time.
That way, if the master switch is on, the beacon starts. It's a heads-up
for people on the ramp that there's a risk that somebody might start the
engine.

It's also a handy reminder that you've left the master switch on when
securing the airplane.

.... Alan

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  #124  
Old October 18th 06, 03:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Stewart
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Neil Gould writes:


In contrast, our flight school just posted a bulletin opposing the use of
landing lights at any time other than taxiing. We were trained to land
without them, and I now find it much easier to do so than to use them. One
reason is that our airport is frequented by deer, who just stop dead on
the runway when they see the lights, and there was a deer strike just a
couple of weeks ago because the pilot was using landing lights.



Isn't the field fenced?


I was flying today with my instructor and as
we approached, the tower warned us of a coyote
on the the active runway. Huge, fenced airport.




  #125  
Old October 18th 06, 03:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Emily
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Jim Stewart wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:


Isn't the field fenced?


I was flying today with my instructor and as
we approached, the tower warned us of a coyote
on the the active runway. Huge, fenced airport.


Back when I was instructing, a Citation got stuck on a taxiway for
almost an hour while they tried to find someone to go run the coyote
off. I'd think they would be afraid of something that loud, but I
taxied by on the runway and saw it lying on the taxiway, right in front
of the jet. This was a large suburban airport, too. I guess it just
wanted to take a nap.
  #126  
Old October 18th 06, 04:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Wade Hasbrouck
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"Alan Gerber" wrote in message
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In rec.aviation.student Wade Hasbrouck
wrote:
For the record, I turn on the rotating beacon, when I get to the item in
the
check list that says "Master Switch on.", and turn it off during the
"Securing the airplane" checklist.


In the plane I use (school plane), the switch for the beacon and the
strobes is a split switch. We just leave the beacon on all the time.
That way, if the master switch is on, the beacon starts. It's a heads-up
for people on the ramp that there's a risk that somebody might start the
engine.

It's also a handy reminder that you've left the master switch on when
securing the airplane.

... Alan

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Aren't the beacon and strobes typically on separate switches? At least they
are in the 172s I have been in, don't know about other aircraft.

  #127  
Old October 18th 06, 04:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
A Lieberma
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"Morgans" wrote in
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Did you try the before and after the link trick?


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...935Z/KEKY/KMBO


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...935Z/KEKY/KMBO
/tracklog

Lets see if this works. My latest flight :-)

Allen

  #128  
Old October 18th 06, 04:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
A Lieberma
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A Lieberma wrote in
. 18:


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...15/1935Z/KEKY/
KMBO /tracklog

Lets see if this works. My latest flight :-)

Allen


Guess not :-(

Lets try the eliminating the wrap feature now.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1943L/history/20061015/1935Z/KEKY/KMBO

Allen
  #129  
Old October 18th 06, 05:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Alan Gerber
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In rec.aviation.student Wade Hasbrouck wrote:
Aren't the beacon and strobes typically on separate switches? At least they
are in the 172s I have been in, don't know about other aircraft.


In the Warrior I'm flying now, it's two thin switches that fit into the
space of a full-sized switch -- like the master switch. So you can turn
on either or both, as needed, in one motion. I don't remember if the
school's older Warrior (now gone) had the same setup.

.... Alan

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  #130  
Old October 18th 06, 06:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Dave Stadt
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"Wade Hasbrouck" wrote in message
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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Can you say "run-on sentence"? Sure, I knew you could!


I never claimed to be a great writer... :-) I was computer science
major, not an english major... :-)
Sorry, could resist a posting a reply.


Anyway, your assumption is poorly placed.


I didn't say I practiced my assumption... :-) I guess it was more of a
hypothesis vs. an assumption. I don't know why if someone, if they had a
beacon on the tail, wouldn't turn it on once the engine it is started...
It almost seems like there are some people in this thread that are like
"Well, I have a beacon, but I am not turning it on, because I don't think
I have to." Commonsense says that it is a much safer world if you turn it
on just before turning the key, and leaving it on until you shut the
engine down, because after all, you won't get in trouble for turning that
thing on.

For the record, I turn on the rotating beacon, when I get to the item in
the check list that says "Master Switch on.", and turn it off during the
"Securing the airplane" checklist.


As has been beaten to death in this thread already, the FARs require that
anticollision lights be on while the aircraft is being operated.
Anticollision lights may take the form of a rotating beacon, strobes, or
other types of light meeting the requirements for an anticollision light


Agree this has been beaten to death.

Ire or not, if your strobes are the installed anticollision lights, then
they must be on while you are operating the aircraft.


Are there any planes that have only strobes? Not trying to make an
arguement, I am just curious, as almost every plane I have seen as the
beacon on the tail, haven't seen one that has just strobes. I admit
that it would sort of suck for other pilots if that is all you have, and
FARs are FAR, and if that is all you got, that is what you gotta use.



Mine only has strobes and that is not uncommon.


 




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