Steering on the taxiway

Dave wrote in
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....for the record..I find your questions here to be reasonable and
the (correct) answers posted will be of some value to You and the
many who lurk here..

Most of Manic's questions seem to start off in that direction, true. But he
frequently hunts down a way to turn it into an argument, even when he gets
an answer that is accurate. Often he simply states that the answer cannot
be correct because it doesn't work that way for him in the sim, or because
he has some preconceived notion that itself may be inaccurate. Other times
he will find some minor detail within the response that is refutable, and
take immediate action to refute it in an attempt to discredit the entire
post. It's disingenuous, inflammatory, and it is not interesting to pilots
on this newsgroup.

He continues to repeat the same pattern over and over again. Many of us
gave him the benefit of the doubt for too long a time.

I am having some difficulty understanding why some here find it
necessary to chastize you for being a "sim" pilot. I know some local
"sim" pilots who would love to do the real thing, but are unable for
various reasons.

No one is chastising him just for being a Sim pilot. What we are chastising
him for being a troll.

If that is your circumstance, I hope it is temporary, and you may
experience the thrill of piloting a real aircraft someday.

He has indicated that he has neither the money nor the interest to actually
pilot a real plane. He has disdain for pilots and believes flying to be too
risky. I am convinced that his entire purpose on this newsgroup is to
improve his own ego by demonstrating how well he can manipulate the "elite
pilots" on this newsgroup.

Ignore the rants, there are some here that will answer your question
properly and correctly..

But that won't stop him from arguing with them, either.

Morgans writes:

So you don't trust books or people. Is anyone up to your
high standards?

Quite a few. But I take nothing at its or his word. I've been burned
too many times. There are lots of people who want to appear to be
experts, but very few who are. Experience has taught me that the
soft-spoken ones are the often the ones who know the most--once a
person really _is_ an expert, there's no reason to put on a show.

Have fun playing with your sim game.

Last night was great, Essex County to Martha's Vineyard, and then a
very nice flight from Logan International to JFK.

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Judah writes:

Certainly you can recognize by now that certain of your questions and
comments are not pertinent to pilots of General Aviation aircraft.

More importantly, I recognize that essentially all of them are on
topic.

Please refrain from violating the charter of this group.

It's not a law, so it can't be violated. But I'm well within the
charter, anyway.

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Cirrus writes:

You do raise valid points, and I appreciate that you at least replied.
Now I'm going to be sentimental....There is one underlying thing for
you to keep in the back of your mind here, however. There is an
underlying principle that bonds pilots subconsciously together- that
mistakes can lead to death.

That bonds a lot of people together. There are many ways to die.

Not knowing the perfect taxi speed might not hurt anyone,
but the collective package of knowledge a pilot possesses makes him/her
safer up there.

Safer than whom? Nobody else is allowed to fly.

It takes a lifetime commitment to being a safe pilot.

I don't think so. It doesn't take a lifetime to become a doctor; it
certainly doesn't take a lifetime to become a pilot.

But in any safety-critical domain, a certain attitude tends to me more
conducive to safety than any other. Some people have this attitude,
others don't. Training programs and credentialing attempt to instill
and maintain the right attitude, but they don't always succeed, as
accidents and deaths continue to prove.

Try to get to the right answer, but be sensitive to the fact that this
group of people's differing opinions stem from a deeper belief that
their well being (as well as their passengers) depends on their
ultimate actions in the cockpit.

What I find surprising is that, even though they probably do have this
deep belief for the most part, they consciously act against it on so
many occasions. For example, it has been pointed out that GPS
altitudes are not trustworthy, and yet some pilots stubbornly insist
that they can fly with them. They display many of the characteristics
that the FAA says are associated with pilots who will eventually kill
themselves.

You are too high on final. Do you sideslip or go around?
How much do you lean the mixture while on the ground?
What visibility is too low for takeoff? Part 91 lets me go with 0.
Am I safe at 9000ft at night without supplemental oxygen? FAR says it's
legal
When you taxi, how fast is too fast?
Is that runway too short today?

Most of these questions have an unambiguously "safest" answer, so the
only variable is how willing pilots are to follow the safest route in
every situation.

I know my abilities and limitations. For instance, I have great
crosswind landing skills, but am more timid with small mountain strips.
Most people here have different opinions OR experience levels, and you
can't just poke them with sticks when they know that you are detached
from the issue. If you screw up, no problem. If I screw up, somebody
might die, and that's why we try so hard to tell each other what we
think is best. Sometimes it seems you toy with this principle (without
knowing it, I hope) and it really ****es people off. Just my 2 cents.

Being ****ed off is unsafe. Emotion clouds judgement, and cloudy
judgement is poor judgement, and poor judgement leads to bad things.

I'm sorry that some people are ruled by their emotions. It must be
very unpleasant. I'm thankful that I'm not flying with them at the
controls.

I long ago noticed that the best pilots, astronauts, engineers, etc.,
tend to be like robots when they are doing what they like best.
People who cannot control their emotions wash out, or die. I like to
see that icy calm in anyone flying a plane in which I'm a passenger.
When all hell breaks loose, I know they'll keep a cool head and bring
us all in to a safe landing.

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Mxsmanic writes:
Doug writes:

And contrary to how many are being taught, you don't need the
brakes on the beginning of takeoff run to stay aligned with the center
stripe.

Pilots are taught to use the brakes on take-off? Isn't that unsafe?

Note -- I believe Doug is an airline pilot. He probably knows what he is talking about.

To answer your question: depends on the plane, depends on the
conditions. For most planes you probably don't want to touch the
brakes on takeoff at all. For the DA-20 I am currently training in,
the POH claims that in crosswind conditions you may need to tap one of
the brakes a bit during the initial takeoff roll to retain directional
control before the rudder gains full authority -- but doing this
increases your takeoff distance.

Chris

Judah writes:

Most of Manic's questions seem to start off in that direction, true. But he
frequently hunts down a way to turn it into an argument, even when he gets
an answer that is accurate. Often he simply states that the answer cannot
be correct because it doesn't work that way for him in the sim, or because
he has some preconceived notion that itself may be inaccurate. Other times
he will find some minor detail within the response that is refutable, and
take immediate action to refute it in an attempt to discredit the entire
post. It's disingenuous, inflammatory, and it is not interesting to pilots
on this newsgroup.

Not really--but it's injurious to pilot egos, and for some pilots,
that overrides every other consideration.

Do you really expect me to accept every answer I get unconditionally?
I can't even get coherent answers from more than one person at a time
in some cases. The answers are contradictory, or bizarre, or conflict
with other sources I've consulted. I'm not stupid enough to just
swallow whatever I'm given. I may actually have to apply this
knowledge someday.

I have _consistently_ found that people who know exactly what they are
talking about can explain every answer they give in exhausting,
grueling detail if necessary. Furthermore, they can do it without
becoming defensive or emotional, and without insulting whoever asked
the question. Some people here may think that they are valiantly
defending their egos and honor when they fly off the handle and whine
like children. In fact, I'm just drawing a line through their names.
They can't explain their answers, and they get antsy when anyone
questions them--these two behaviors combined are an extremely strong
indicator that they simply don't know what they are talking about.

No one is chastising him just for being a Sim pilot.

Some people are. It's an ego issue, again.

He has indicated that he has neither the money nor the interest to actually
pilot a real plane. He has disdain for pilots and believes flying to be too
risky.

I haven't the money or time to fly. The medical requirements are
(unnecessarily) strict. Given all this, the obstacles to flying are
simply too high to make it a consideration. Perhaps if they didn't
exist, I might be more willing to try it out.

I don't have a disdain for pilots, only for stupid people.
Unfortunately, being a pilot doesn't prevent someone from being
stupid.

Flying _is_ risky--the numbers prove it. It's not necessarily risky
enough to avoid, but pretending that GA is as safe as stepping onto an
airliner is deliberately and dramatically misleading.

I am convinced that his entire purpose on this newsgroup is to
improve his own ego by demonstrating how well he can manipulate the "elite
pilots" on this newsgroup.

It's easy to manipulate people; it doesn't provide much for the ego.
And I can't say that I've seen much in the way of elite pilots on this
newsgroup. I've seen some who I'd say know a lot more than others,
but I won't name names.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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It's not a law, so it can't be violated.

Certainly other things besides laws can be violated.

From Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
vi-o-late [vahy-uh-leyt]–verb (used with object)
1. to break, infringe, or transgress (a law, rule, agreement, promise,
instructions, etc.).
2. to break in upon or disturb rudely; interfere thoughtlessly with: to
violate his privacy.
4. to treat irreverently or disrespectfully; desecrate; profane: violate a
human right.


Many of your posts "break in upon or disturb rudely; interfere thoughtlessly
with" this newsgroup, whether you see it that way or not. And some of your
posts "treat irreverently or disrespectfully" General Aviation and its
Pilots, which is what this newsgroup was designed for.

In article ,
Judah wrote:

How did we get rid of the fish that shall not be named?

Dumping Nuclear Waste in the water?

nope - by ignoring him


What happened to the long island looney bird?

Shot 'em all?

nope - by ignoring him

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Judah writes:

Many of your posts "break in upon or disturb rudely; interfere thoughtlessly
with" this newsgroup, whether you see it that way or not.

So the way you see things is objectively valid, whereas the way I see
things is not? Do you see a contradiction here?

And some of your
posts "treat irreverently or disrespectfully" General Aviation and its
Pilots, which is what this newsgroup was designed for.

It's not a religion.

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Thus simulating nothing.

Not quite. Some things that are time-consuming in the sim would be
extremely fast and easy in real life. Thus, pausing the sim to carry
them out is actually more realistic than doing them in real time.

I have been a long time proponent of simulation as a safer and more cost
effective method to practice and prepare for a variety of operations.
However, you have finally convinced me that Allen, Jim, and several others
have been correct in their assessment--that this series of threads is a huge
waste.

Therefore, Mx, fairwell to you and I hope that you are finding enjoyment in
almost simulating.

Peter