Such language!

On 22 Sep 2003 04:23:12 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

How high (AGL) would you say he was when directly overhead. Even more
importantly, how much did the prop miss his head by?
--
Jim in NC

It appeared to me he was under the right wing tip by about a good fifty feet.
Still too close.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

I'd say it was a LOT closer than 50 feet. Several observations he
The landing gear was stowed and the airplane could have climbed a lot
more than it did. I think the pilot deliberately stayed low to give
the reporter a close encounter. It did move over just a bit so that
the prop would not be directly over the guy.

You can actually see the grass being pushed around by the ground
effect as the Spitfire passes overhead. It was that low.

Corky Scott

Guys,
This clip as been around for a couple of years. It has been discussed at
length on the Spitfire forums. Here is the scoop as I understand it. They
were filming a documentary for the 60th anniversary of the Spitfire. Ray
Hanna, flying Spitfire MKIX serial number MH434, was supposed to fly over
the reporter and the camera. It was a timed deal, with the reporter
finishing his speech and the airplane arriving a second or two later. In
addition to the reporter, the camera operator, and the soundman, there was
also a aerial coordinator in radio contact with the airplane. This was the
first take.

The airplane did not take off and fly over the reporter. The airplane was
already in the air and made a low pass. A very low pass. Mr. Hanna has a
reputation of flying very low. I have another clip (if I can find it) where
he is flying in an airshow and he actually goes out of sight, below the
level of the runway (which was built up above the average ground level).
All you can see is the prop tips and the vertical fin.

The pass was lower than expected and caught the reporter off guard. You can
imagine what it was like, standing under 1650hp. The airplane is very low
as it approaches. Many self proclaimed experts have said the the bottom of
the airplane is less than 4 feet off the ground as it approaches. The
airplane does appear to rise up as it approaches the camera but it is not
more than 20 feet or so.

If you have trouble viewing it on the link as posted, it is on my site as
well:
http://www.spitfire.org/doc9/ohmygod1.wmv
you need Windows Media Player to view it.

You can read about Ray Hanna, Spitfire MH434 and their adventures he
http://www.ofmc.co.uk/aircraft/spitfire.htm

Rick Pellicciotti, webmaster,
http://www.spitfire.org

"sean trost" wrote in message
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Roger,
I was at Jackson naval air station sitting at the arresting gear
mechanism in the dead of night waiting for the ride home when I head the
distinctive whine of a C-5a on final, sans running lights shooting for
my runway, thankfully he hit the ground about 150 meter in front of me
and I did get nothing more than a hurricane gust. Whew, If I'd known
then what I know now........

all the best
Sean Trost

And what is it, that you know now?
--
Jim in NC

wingtip vortices.

all the best
Sean Trost

Morgans wrote:
"sean trost" wrote in message
...

Roger,
I was at Jackson naval air station sitting at the arresting gear
mechanism in the dead of night waiting for the ride home when I head the
distinctive whine of a C-5a on final, sans running lights shooting for
my runway, thankfully he hit the ground about 150 meter in front of me
and I did get nothing more than a hurricane gust. Whew, If I'd known
then what I know now........

all the best
Sean Trost


And what is it, that you know now?
--
Jim in NC

"sean trost" wrote in message
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wingtip vortices.

all the best
Sean Trost


So are you saying you enjoyed it? g

I always wondered how much they would push a person around.

Did you see the movie, "Pushing Tin"? The person in that, relieves some
stress (or something) by standing right at the end of a runway while heavies
are landing. It shows him getting the sh*t knocked out of him, resulting in
several cartwheels. I wonder how true that is.
--
Jim in NC

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:44:44 GMT,
(Corky Scott) wrote:

On 22 Sep 2003 04:23:12 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

How high (AGL) would you say he was when directly overhead. Even more
importantly, how much did the prop miss his head by?
--
Jim in NC

It appeared to me he was under the right wing tip by about a good fifty feet.
Still too close.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

I'd say it was a LOT closer than 50 feet. Several observations he
The landing gear was stowed and the airplane could have climbed a lot
more than it did. I think the pilot deliberately stayed low to give
the reporter a close encounter. It did move over just a bit so that
the prop would not be directly over the guy.

You can actually see the grass being pushed around by the ground
effect as the Spitfire passes overhead. It was that low.

I wouldda guessed maybe 3 feet. :-))

Roger


Corky Scott


Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

So what is the history of this? It looks to me like it was staged.
the camera starts panning out and then pans to the right before
the airplane ever gets to the reporter.

Jerry

Roger Halstead wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:44:44 GMT,
(Corky Scott) wrote:


On 22 Sep 2003 04:23:12 GMT, (B2431) wrote:


How high (AGL) would you say he was when directly overhead. Even more
importantly, how much did the prop miss his head by?
--
Jim in NC

It appeared to me he was under the right wing tip by about a good fifty feet.
Still too close.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

I'd say it was a LOT closer than 50 feet. Several observations he
The landing gear was stowed and the airplane could have climbed a lot
more than it did. I think the pilot deliberately stayed low to give
the reporter a close encounter. It did move over just a bit so that
the prop would not be directly over the guy.

You can actually see the grass being pushed around by the ground
effect as the Spitfire passes overhead. It was that low.


I wouldda guessed maybe 3 feet. :-))

Roger


Corky Scott



Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

Roger Halstead wrote:

I'd like to find the original story. "To me" it appears it was
staged, but the reporter wasn't in on the "punch line":-))

Roger (K8RI)

Oh for goodness sakes, of course the damn thing was staged and of
course the reporter knew about it. What the reporter wasn't ready for
was how loud and how low. Sheesh.

"Morgans" wrote:

Did you see the movie, "Pushing Tin"? The person in that, relieves some
stress (or something) by standing right at the end of a runway while heavies
are landing. It shows him getting the sh*t knocked out of him, resulting in
several cartwheels.


I wonder how true that is. ---
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What a lovely troll.


Barnyard BOb --

"Barnyard BOb --" wrote in message
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"Morgans" wrote:

Did you see the movie, "Pushing Tin"? The person in that, relieves some
stress (or something) by standing right at the end of a runway while
heavies
are landing. It shows him getting the sh*t knocked out of him, resulting
in
several cartwheels.


I wonder how true that is. ---
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What a lovely troll.


Barnyard BOb --


Really, BOb! A Troll? I am just seeking scientific verification of movie
special effects. ;-)
--
Jim in NC