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  #132  
Old November 29th 07, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt W. Barrow
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Default Airlines Cut Minimum Pilot Experience to 500 hours and Below


"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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Matt W. Barrow wrote:


Of course, you can go to the Cheyenne public pools and see 300 lb gals in
spandex as a substitute for whale watching .


I can see that everywhere!

The "belly" shirt is not for everyone... G


"Belly shirts" are one place the minimalist approach is appropriate.

--
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Cheyenne, WY


  #133  
Old November 29th 07, 07:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt W. Barrow
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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Matt W. Barrow wrote:


Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not allow
unions and their employees are at the top in terms of production and
compensation and their futures look bright compared to GM, Ford and
Chrysler who are at death's door.


Toyota deals with unions.

My Toyota Tacoma is built by UAW represented employees in California, in
the same plant as the Pontiac Vibe and some Corollas.

http://www.nummi.com/

The brand-new Tundra plant in Texas is also UAW.


Oh! I was thinking of the Camry shops in Kentucky. last I heard, those
plants employees voted to keep the unions out.

The truck divisions are, IIRC, a completely separate division. Since the
Toyota trucks command a significant price premium, it stands to reason that
they could afford a union, especially a local that's much more cooperative.

I can imagine that a TRUCK plant would be union. :~)


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Old November 30th 07, 12:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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B A R R Y wrote:
Matt W. Barrow wrote:



Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not
allow unions



It's not their decision to make.
  #135  
Old November 30th 07, 04:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tina
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Matt claims to employ a thousand people, but his knowledge of domestic
labor laws is questionable. He must be doing something else very right
to be successful.


On Nov 29, 6:21 pm, Newps wrote:
B A R R Y wrote:

Matt W. Barrow wrote:


Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not
allow unions


It's not their decision to make.


  #136  
Old November 30th 07, 05:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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Newps wrote:
Matt W. Barrow wrote:
Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not
allow unions


It's not their decision to make.


I think he means that they employ legal means (such as paying union scale
wages) to reduce incentive of employees to unionize. They also locate
plants where the work population has few ties or historical interest in
unionizing. The results, such as they are, speak for themselves.

By the way, as a self-employed business-person I do not get _any_ benefits
that unions have allegedly fought for and "won".
  #137  
Old November 30th 07, 05:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt W. Barrow
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
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Newps wrote:
Matt W. Barrow wrote:
Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not
allow unions


It's not their decision to make.


I think he means that they employ legal means (such as paying union scale
wages) to reduce incentive of employees to unionize. They also locate
plants where the work population has few ties or historical interest in
unionizing. The results, such as they are, speak for themselves.


Exactly. Furthermore, corporations CAN ignore and even, IIRC, "decertify" a
union. It hasn't been done in a LONGGG time, but it can be.


By the way, as a self-employed business-person I do not get _any_ benefits
that unions have allegedly fought for and "won".


Quite!

And when I do RFP's, those union shops that do respond better not have
idiotic work rules.


  #138  
Old November 30th 07, 05:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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To say one type of economy is better than another is largely
philosophical issue.


This is the only thing in your post I don't think is right.

In my experience it was a very practical issue. The communist
countries I visited had completely fake economies on the surface --
nothing was available, nothing worked, and the lack of trust between
human beings led to medium grade, simmering, misantrhopy.

Okay, okay. Waaaay off topic.
  #139  
Old November 30th 07, 07:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Matt W. Barrow writes:

They can refuse to recognize (or whatever the legal term is) them.


They don't have to "recognize" them. Once they are there, they are there,
"recognition" or not.
  #140  
Old November 30th 07, 12:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y[_2_]
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Newps wrote:


B A R R Y wrote:
Matt W. Barrow wrote:



Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not
allow unions



It's not their decision to make.



_I_ didn't say that. G
 




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