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"B A R R Y" wrote in message ... Matt W. Barrow wrote: Of course, you can go to the Cheyenne public pools and see 300 lb gals in spandex as a substitute for whale watching . I can see that everywhere! The "belly" shirt is not for everyone... G "Belly shirts" are one place the minimalist approach is appropriate. -- Matt Barrow Performance Homes, LLC. Cheyenne, WY |
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message ... Matt W. Barrow wrote: Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not allow unions and their employees are at the top in terms of production and compensation and their futures look bright compared to GM, Ford and Chrysler who are at death's door. Toyota deals with unions. My Toyota Tacoma is built by UAW represented employees in California, in the same plant as the Pontiac Vibe and some Corollas. http://www.nummi.com/ The brand-new Tundra plant in Texas is also UAW. Oh! I was thinking of the Camry shops in Kentucky. last I heard, those plants employees voted to keep the unions out. The truck divisions are, IIRC, a completely separate division. Since the Toyota trucks command a significant price premium, it stands to reason that they could afford a union, especially a local that's much more cooperative. I can imagine that a TRUCK plant would be union. :~) |
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B A R R Y wrote: Matt W. Barrow wrote: Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not allow unions It's not their decision to make. |
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Matt claims to employ a thousand people, but his knowledge of domestic
labor laws is questionable. He must be doing something else very right to be successful. On Nov 29, 6:21 pm, Newps wrote: B A R R Y wrote: Matt W. Barrow wrote: Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not allow unions It's not their decision to make. |
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Newps wrote:
Matt W. Barrow wrote: Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not allow unions It's not their decision to make. I think he means that they employ legal means (such as paying union scale wages) to reduce incentive of employees to unionize. They also locate plants where the work population has few ties or historical interest in unionizing. The results, such as they are, speak for themselves. By the way, as a self-employed business-person I do not get _any_ benefits that unions have allegedly fought for and "won". |
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message .. . Newps wrote: Matt W. Barrow wrote: Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not allow unions It's not their decision to make. I think he means that they employ legal means (such as paying union scale wages) to reduce incentive of employees to unionize. They also locate plants where the work population has few ties or historical interest in unionizing. The results, such as they are, speak for themselves. Exactly. Furthermore, corporations CAN ignore and even, IIRC, "decertify" a union. It hasn't been done in a LONGGG time, but it can be. By the way, as a self-employed business-person I do not get _any_ benefits that unions have allegedly fought for and "won". Quite! And when I do RFP's, those union shops that do respond better not have idiotic work rules. |
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To say one type of economy is better than another is largely
philosophical issue. This is the only thing in your post I don't think is right. In my experience it was a very practical issue. The communist countries I visited had completely fake economies on the surface -- nothing was available, nothing worked, and the lack of trust between human beings led to medium grade, simmering, misantrhopy. Okay, okay. Waaaay off topic. |
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Matt W. Barrow writes:
They can refuse to recognize (or whatever the legal term is) them. They don't have to "recognize" them. Once they are there, they are there, "recognition" or not. |
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Newps wrote:
B A R R Y wrote: Matt W. Barrow wrote: Interestingly, American based branches like Honda and Toyota do not allow unions It's not their decision to make. _I_ didn't say that. G |
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