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Old December 14th 07, 12:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Blueskies" wrote

Nothing to do with down wind turns, but ever notice how a helium filled
balloon fixed inside a car leans toward the inside of a turn, or leans
backward when a car stops, or leans forward when it accelerates?


Yep, and I have another good one for you. Inside a big motor home, on a
cold night, if you get in, and get the engine powered heater going, the
front of the vehicle will get nice and warm, while way in the back is still
nearly as cold as it was before you fired it up.

If you stop suddenly, all of the cold air in the back will rush up to the
front, and you will be cold again, almost instantly!
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Jim in NC


  #82  
Old December 14th 07, 02:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
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"Jim Macklin" writes:

What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person with
some level experience with a cockpit display can control an airliner. Most
FAA controllers would not have the experience to describe the cockpit and
give useful instruction in how to manually fly with the autopilot or where
the switches are located, or how to use the radio to even start the
"rescue."


FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if required.
  #83  
Old December 14th 07, 02:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
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F. Baum writes:

Jim, I caught just the parts of the show where J and A tried to land
the plane with some coaching from the sim instructor (Mainly to see
how the instructor would do this). These portions of the show were
amazingly brief (Possibly for security reasons ?) . The stuff they did
show was scary and I doubt they could have gotten awhay with some of
it in a real plane. I do watch the show for its "Infotaiment" value
but I remain unconvinced that someone could actually be talked down in
an airliner. I think it has been tried a time or two in GA after the
pilot became incapacitated.


A small GA airplane is completely different from an airliner, but in any case,
it has been done successfully in small planes. No circumstances have ever
required it in airliners, but it's certainly doable.
  #84  
Old December 14th 07, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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I don't think anybody here really cares, but it would be undeniably
cool to see an aeroplane hurtling down a massive treadmill.


My guess is that they would use a model airplane. It would just be
too unsafe to do anything else.


Why? It will never take off.

g,d,rlh Jose
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Old December 14th 07, 02:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Jose wrote:
I don't think anybody here really cares, but it would be undeniably
cool to see an aeroplane hurtling down a massive treadmill.


My guess is that they would use a model airplane. It would just be
too unsafe to do anything else.


Why? It will never take off.

g,d,rlh Jose


Oh, you're so subtle you little devil you :-))

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Old December 14th 07, 03:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Mxsmanic wrote:
"Jim Macklin" writes:


What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person with
some level experience with a cockpit display can control an airliner. Most
FAA controllers would not have the experience to describe the cockpit and
give useful instruction in how to manually fly with the autopilot or where
the switches are located, or how to use the radio to even start the
"rescue."



FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if required.



Who is this fool????
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Old December 14th 07, 03:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

cavelamb himself wrote in
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Mxsmanic wrote:
"Jim Macklin" writes:


What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person
with some level experience with a cockpit display can control an
airliner. Most FAA controllers would not have the experience to
describe the cockpit and give useful instruction in how to manually
fly with the autopilot or where the switches are located, or how to
use the radio to even start the "rescue."



FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if
required.



Who is this fool????


You want him? He'll probably try to te you how to build an airplane using
plane constructor and photoshop next.

Bertie
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Old December 14th 07, 03:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

cavelamb himself wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
"Jim Macklin" writes:


What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person
with some level experience with a cockpit display can control an
airliner. Most FAA controllers would not have the experience to
describe the cockpit and give useful instruction in how to manually
fly with the autopilot or where the switches are located, or how to
use the radio to even start the "rescue."



FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if required.



Who is this fool????




:-)) Welcome to the club!

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  #89  
Old December 14th 07, 06:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.skydiving
Mark Hickey
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

Mxsmanic wrote:

F. Baum writes:

Jim, I caught just the parts of the show where J and A tried to land
the plane with some coaching from the sim instructor (Mainly to see
how the instructor would do this). These portions of the show were
amazingly brief (Possibly for security reasons ?) . The stuff they did
show was scary and I doubt they could have gotten awhay with some of
it in a real plane. I do watch the show for its "Infotaiment" value
but I remain unconvinced that someone could actually be talked down in
an airliner. I think it has been tried a time or two in GA after the
pilot became incapacitated.


A small GA airplane is completely different from an airliner, but in any case,
it has been done successfully in small planes. No circumstances have ever
required it in airliners, but it's certainly doable.


It's important to remember that the would-be pilot/savior would have
tremendous motivation to get it right the first time. When thinking
through that scenario, I always pictured having three or four people
in the cockpit - each with a limited job that they'd be walked through
by an expert on the radio... maybe each with a cell phone connecting
them to individual team members on the ground. Then it's just up to
those experts on the ground to talk each of them through about 1/4 of
the process of getting the plane on the ground in one piece (as
opposed to making a flawless landing on the numbers).

Of course, then they'd all be arrested upong landing for using their
cellphones in flight.

Mark "it's the price you pay for survival I guess" Hickey
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Old December 14th 07, 06:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

cavelamb himself wrote in
:


Mxsmanic wrote:

"Jim Macklin" writes:



What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any person
with some level experience with a cockpit display can control an
airliner. Most FAA controllers would not have the experience to
describe the cockpit and give useful instruction in how to manually
fly with the autopilot or where the switches are located, or how to
use the radio to even start the "rescue."


FAA controllers can find pilots and put them on the radio, if
required.



Who is this fool????



You want him? He'll probably try to te you how to build an airplane using
plane constructor and photoshop next.

Bertie


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