Ercoupe

On Mar 9, 8:23 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 9, 7:20 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dan wrote in news:42b5622c-9f2a-4376-814a-
:

On Mar 9, 7:07 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
It's part of the STC to remove it when it's converted to a Pacer, but
it
hadn't been done for some reason.
Bertie
Thought so.
I just wonder who came up with that Tri Pacer gear...
=
Who came up with it? Probably Pug Piper. It was just to meet the demand
for more milk stools in the fifties. A number of airplanes were modified
by the factories to trike configuration. the C 170 the 180 and 140, for
instance and the particularly unfortunate WACO N.

Bertie

Bertie

Yikes.. that was a selling point? It looks like it's about to tip over
if the Line boy sneezes...

I've flown the Ercoupe. Not much to it really. It was fun running the
side windows down and flying along with my arm out on the edge of the
cockpit sort of like in a car.
The landings were a bit different if you had any crosswind at all, but
easily doable in the crab. Take off was the same. As soon as you broke
ground, it weather vaned into the wind with aileron. Sort of a "spooky"
little airplane but it flew quite well and was quite fast for its day.

The one I flew didn't have the later rudder capability. Never flew the Alon.

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Dudley Henriques

I flew one once and one thing I remember is that taking off in a left
crosswind took some getting used to. Had to bank it farther right
than most people will be comfortable with that low, to keep it
straight. Because you couldn't correct for the weathervaning + left
turning tendency with the rudder. Yes, I know the left turning
tendency was supposedly designed out of it. Not. At takeoff power
it's still there. Of coruse the one I was flying was a 75 hp model
that had been modified with the c-90, so that might have something to
do with it

xyzzy wrote:
On Mar 9, 8:23 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 9, 7:20 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dan wrote in news:42b5622c-9f2a-4376-814a-
:
On Mar 9, 7:07 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
It's part of the STC to remove it when it's converted to a Pacer, but
it
hadn't been done for some reason.
Bertie
Thought so.
I just wonder who came up with that Tri Pacer gear...
=
Who came up with it? Probably Pug Piper. It was just to meet the demand
for more milk stools in the fifties. A number of airplanes were modified
by the factories to trike configuration. the C 170 the 180 and 140, for
instance and the particularly unfortunate WACO N.
Bertie
Bertie
Yikes.. that was a selling point? It looks like it's about to tip over
if the Line boy sneezes...
I've flown the Ercoupe. Not much to it really. It was fun running the
side windows down and flying along with my arm out on the edge of the
cockpit sort of like in a car.
The landings were a bit different if you had any crosswind at all, but
easily doable in the crab. Take off was the same. As soon as you broke
ground, it weather vaned into the wind with aileron. Sort of a "spooky"
little airplane but it flew quite well and was quite fast for its day.

The one I flew didn't have the later rudder capability. Never flew the Alon.

--
Dudley Henriques

I flew one once and one thing I remember is that taking off in a left
crosswind took some getting used to. Had to bank it farther right
than most people will be comfortable with that low, to keep it
straight. Because you couldn't correct for the weathervaning + left
turning tendency with the rudder. Yes, I know the left turning
tendency was supposedly designed out of it. Not. At takeoff power
it's still there. Of coruse the one I was flying was a 75 hp model
that had been modified with the c-90, so that might have something to
do with it


Never had these problems. I'm sure you meant a left bank into a left
crosswind and not a right. :-))
The wethervaning was natural in the Ercoupe and left alone, the airplane
would usually make the crosswind correction by itself :-))

I never noticed any noticeable left turning tendencies in the Coupe.
PFactor was no issue as the basic attitude of the propeller was fairly
level with the relative wind on takeoff. Not enough vertical surface
back there for much spiraling slipstream effect. Of course there's
always a bit of gyroscopic precess as you rotate in pitch, but nothing
of note really in the Coupe. Torque correction is in roll anyway, and
you had ample aileron on the airplane.

It was different all right, but no big deal at all on these issues.

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Dudley Henriques

On Mar 10, 1:18 pm, wrote:

If you can stand a single holer, there's this (with rudder peds):

http://www.theminicoupe.com/_wsn/page2.html

Not many flying I think. Looks fun though.

Now that's.. mini.

Dan

Dan wrote:
On Mar 10, 1:18 pm, wrote:
If you can stand a single holer, there's this (with rudder peds):

http://www.theminicoupe.com/_wsn/page2.html

Not many flying I think. Looks fun though.

Now that's.. mini.

Dan
Mooney made something way back when called the Mite. I flew it a couple
of times. That thing was small; little single seater; not a bad aileron
roll either :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

On Mar 10, 5:09 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 10, 1:18 pm, wrote:
If you can stand a single holer, there's this (with rudder peds):

http://www.theminicoupe.com/_wsn/page2.html

Not many flying I think. Looks fun though.

Now that's.. mini.

Dan

Mooney made something way back when called the Mite. I flew it a couple
of times. That thing was small; little single seater; not a bad aileron
roll either :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

The mite! I think there's one at my home field (or so I'm told --
never saw it fly).

How about the Bede-5?

;-)

Dan

Dan wrote:
On Mar 10, 5:09 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 10, 1:18 pm, wrote:
If you can stand a single holer, there's this (with rudder peds):
http://www.theminicoupe.com/_wsn/page2.html
Not many flying I think. Looks fun though.
Now that's.. mini.
Dan
Mooney made something way back when called the Mite. I flew it a couple
of times. That thing was small; little single seater; not a bad aileron
roll either :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

The mite! I think there's one at my home field (or so I'm told --
never saw it fly).

How about the Bede-5?

;-)

Dan
Never flew the BD5, but my friend started to build one. He got caught up
in the mess that was Jim Bede's engine woes. Never finished it.
Corkey Fornof is an old friend. Cork flew the BD5J through the hangar in
the James Bond movie "Occtopussy"

--
Dudley Henriques

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

It was Earl Stahl. If anyone wants to make one i got some drawings for it
somewhere.

Bertie

a goldmine under yer mattress

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On Mar 10, 6:08 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 10, 5:09 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 10, 1:18 pm, wrote:
If you can stand a single holer, there's this (with rudder peds):
http://www.theminicoupe.com/_wsn/page2.html
Not many flying I think. Looks fun though.
Now that's.. mini.
Dan
Mooney made something way back when called the Mite. I flew it a couple
of times. That thing was small; little single seater; not a bad aileron
roll either :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

The mite! I think there's one at my home field (or so I'm told --
never saw it fly).

How about the Bede-5?

;-)

Dan

Never flew the BD5, but my friend started to build one. He got caught up
in the mess that was Jim Bede's engine woes. Never finished it.
Corkey Fornof is an old friend. Cork flew the BD5J through the hangar in
the James Bond movie "Occtopussy"

--
Dudley Henriques

Now that was an awesome scene...

When I was a kid there's was only one plane for me -- the BD-5J.

Thank God for maturity!

Dan

Dan wrote:
I've flown the Ercoupe. Not much to it really. It was fun running the
side windows down and flying along with my arm out on the edge of the
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I wonder what they did to all the old signs?

"Peace Through Strength. Victory Through Devastation"
"Peace Is Our Profession. War Is Just a Hobby."


My favorite was on a door leading to ops at...ummm Castle? AFB...I think. Or
Ellsworth?

Anyway there was a relief carving of a BUFF on a piece of wood nailed to the
door,
said "To Fly and to FIGHT!" with a big smokin' 8-can carved above it.

Modified by the duty squad to read:

To Fly and to ...Eat donuts"

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Dan wrote:
On Mar 10, 6:08 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 10, 5:09 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 10, 1:18 pm, wrote:
If you can stand a single holer, there's this (with rudder peds):
http://www.theminicoupe.com/_wsn/page2.html
Not many flying I think. Looks fun though.
Now that's.. mini.
Dan
Mooney made something way back when called the Mite. I flew it a couple
of times. That thing was small; little single seater; not a bad aileron
roll either :-))
--
Dudley Henriques
The mite! I think there's one at my home field (or so I'm told --
never saw it fly).
How about the Bede-5?
;-)
Dan
Never flew the BD5, but my friend started to build one. He got caught up
in the mess that was Jim Bede's engine woes. Never finished it.
Corkey Fornof is an old friend. Cork flew the BD5J through the hangar in
the James Bond movie "Occtopussy"

--
Dudley Henriques

Now that was an awesome scene...

When I was a kid there's was only one plane for me -- the BD-5J.

Thank God for maturity!

Dan
Cork says the hardest thing about the scene was figuring the shock wave
bounce back off the interior hangar walls as he flew the airplane
through. His team brought in a physics whiz (not Tucker BTW :-) who ran
the numbers and came up with the exact amount they had to open the side
windows to keep the shock from bouncing back on the aircraft as he went
through. If that happened, he would have been killed.
You're right, it was a great stunt. Cork has done a lot of them in
different movies. He and his dad Bill Fornof were both charter members
of the IFPF which I founded. Great people the Fornofs.

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Dudley Henriques