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The 61.31 endorsements are one time and apply to operation
of a whole range of airplanes... the tailwheel endorsement applies to a Piper Cub, a Beech 18 and a DC 3 and C 46. The fact that a type rating is required for the C 46 and DC 3 doesn't mean that, unless otherwise covered by the exemptions, a person applying for a type rating doesn't need the 61.31 endorsement before the check ride. A student pilot is covered by the solo requirements of the 90 day sign off, the 61.31 endorsement never expires and covers any tailwheel airplane. If I was instructing a student in a tailwheel airplane, I would make the 61.31 endorsement at the time I completed the practical test recommendation, it isn't needed before and when the student passes, it will be needed for the flight home. -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P -- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties. "Bob Moore" wrote in message . 121... | Peter Duniho wrote | | "Bob Moore" wrote in message | . 121... | Agreed. But is required training (and in particular, training | required by 61.31(i)) a "rating limitation"? | | No...Fist because it can be endorsed by an Authorized Instructor | and second probably because it comes under the second part of the | title of 61.31 which contains three distinct items: | "Section 61.31: Type rating requirements, additional training, and | authorization requirements". | | Well, if it's not a "rating limitation", then 61.31(k) doesn't apply. | | (k) Exceptions. | (2) The rating limitations of this section do not apply to- | (ii) The holder of a student pilot certificate; | | They can't apply since a student pilot certificate contains no ratings, | only training endorsements. | | In addition, any 61.31(i)requirement for student pilots is more than | covered by 61.87c and 61.87n | | Section 61.87n: Solo requirements for student pilots. | | (n) Limitations on student pilots operating an aircraft in solo flight. A | student pilot may not operate an aircraft in solo flight unless that | student pilot has received: | | (1) An endorsement from an authorized instructor on his or her student | pilot certificate for the specific make and model aircraft to be flown; and | | (2) An endorsement in the student's logbook for the specific make and model | aircraft to be flown by an authorized instructor, who gave the training | within the 90 days preceding the date of the flight. | | Bob Moore | |
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