Spin training

"john smith" wrote in message
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In article VY5Zg.6004$XX2.3553@dukeread04,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:

Really. They both have T-tails. The Commander 112 has a
cruixiform tail.

Looking at the Wiki photo, I think that is a Tomahawk.
I always looked at the tail to determine which airplane was which.
The Piper tail is definitely a T because it sits atop the vertical
stabilizer.
I always remembered the Beech tail as mounted below the top of the
horizontal stabilizer, hence I referred to it as a cruciform. Not as low
as the Commanders (mid-vertical stabilizer), but not atop the vertical.

Both links and the photos shown are accurate. Regrettably, both are small
and taken from different angles. However:
The Tomahawk T-tail is mounted to look like a DC-9.
The Skipper T-tail is mounted slightly higher.
The Tomahawk side windows are nearly rectangular.
The Skipper side windows are trapezoidal.
The Tomahawk has a longer wing.
The Skipper wing has deeper chord and greater area.
The Tomahawk has wider spaced main gear attached outboard.
The Skipper main gear extends from the wing-fusalage intersection.

There are some other visual differences that I don't recall.

Peter