Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

On 2007-06-12 10:43:17 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip said:

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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On 2007-06-12 01:11:04 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip
said:

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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On 2007-06-12 00:14:09 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip
said:

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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On 2007-06-11 23:50:07 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip
said:

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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On 2007-06-11 23:27:09 -0400, Bertie the Bunyip
said:

Dudley Henriques wrote;

Got a few hours in the 650 way back when. Man, were those
pedals wide apart!! :-))

Yes, good airplane for exploring aerobatics for th eneophyte,
though. Unburstable, except for that prop thing.

That's what got Rollie Cole. Shame.
I miss the old days. I knew a lot of these people up close and
personal.Counting the people we knew on the jet teams and the
rest from the demonstration community, my wife and I have lost
32 friends through the years to low altitude acro
Dudley

Yes. i've lost a few as well. Somehow I managed to survie it
though!

I don't even like doing them at altitude so much these days.
Except for smooth stuff. A freind of mine has just got a Yak 52
and is going nuts in it doing flat spins and what have you..
Gives me a headache just looking at him!

That's weird. I have a friend in Pa. in the financial business
who's into Yaks as well. (Gotta be careful saying this or PETA
will be on my ass here :-)
He has a 52 now and has just bought an 11. I believe he's trying
to put a P&W in the 11 as we speak.
Got another friend in Jersey who's LOA on Mig 21's.
I think the Russians might be invading after all :-)

I'd say we might have some mutual acquantences.


Bertie

Wouldn't surprise me a bit, but fear not if so. Should the Bunyip
become known, his secret is safe and shall remain so.
For your interest, the two people are Seligman and Sutton.

No, don't know them myself, but I think one had A CJ 6 ferried from
Cal a few years ago?

Also, i reckon you also knew a Pinto/ F86 driver that bit off more
than he could chew?

Steve and I knew each other quite well many years ago when he was a
partner in the old Valley Forge Airport in Pa. His partner had a
French wife you had to see to believe. If I remember right (and who
could forget her..her name was Yvette. :-)

Yeah, met her. I worked for him a looong time ago.

God, that goes WAY back. :-))
I used to fly with Alex Perez if you remember him from Valley Forge.
we got drunk together one night over at the VF Country Club, went out
to the end of the runway and drove copper nails into a huge tree right
in the middle of the approach path. That tree had been driving us all
nuts for a long time :-)
Not sure if the tree died or was cut down when the airport was sold later on.
Alex was killed off in a war and I had moved on to bigger things.
Steve was still the FBO there when I left.

Steve had enough patents to choke a horse, including the paraglider
and the Sentinel just to name two. He made a ton of money in his life.
I take it you knew him as well.


Yeah. Not real well, just worked for him.

I don't really know what happened to the 86 the day he went in over in
Jersey and I can't remember if the bird had an Orenda in it or a J47.


Well, i know the FAA guy who had refused to sign him off for the airshow
at 7MY. He only had the thing a couple of weeks and the guy who was
supposed to sign him off refused him a display ticket for an airshow
that weekend on the basis he would probably kill himself even just
trying to land it there (it's less than 3,000 feet long) . He decided to
land there and static display it and land the day before. didn't like
the look of the approach and the engine quit on the go around.

If I remember right, Steve's Sabre was a Sabre 6. They extended the
leading edges and replaced the LE Slats on the 6. He might have gotten
it into a 3000 ft. strip behind the curve , but getting it out again
would have been a whole new ball game. You over rotate the 86 on
takeoff and you can easily pull it into drag rise. If you do that, the
damn thing will just sit there on the runway and it's the California
Ice Cream Parlor all over again.
I would think twice about taking an 86 out of a 3K strip. The FAA LOA
(I'm assuming he was LOA quald in the Sabre but with the FAA who knows
:-) guy was probably right.

He was kind of famous for things like that. I saw him do a low pass in
that Pinto and pull up vertically and disappear at that very same
airport. He must have been doing 350 down the runway. Not too clever at
a busy field like that. He must have run out of gas in that Stallion
about a dozen times hauling jumpers and his sense around the ramp was
legendary. He nearly blew over a Luscombe I had with that Pinto one day.
Still , he was one clever boy. He had an RC Convair Pogo back in the
'70s when nobody did that kind of thing. All little mechanical
stabilising gyros in it he had made himself. And I can't imagine anyone
else geting the 262 thing going like he did.
BTW, that was the very first airplane I ever sat in when I was all of
5..
The 262 project is indeed something else. I think he had to use the old
bird at Willow Grove for a template, and the deal as we heard it anyway
was that he had to restore it to museum quality. I don't know where
that airplane is today but I'll bet it looks better than it did the
last time I saw it sitting these by the fence at WG :-)
Dudley



Bertie