Opinions on Cessna 340, 414 and 421

I think that you need to start with the budget and see what is availible.
I'm not sure what the relevance of some of the other items is.

What is magical about 200kts? Why do you care if it will go fast at low
altitudes? If you are going any distance, you will be high and if you are
only going a short distance a faster cruising speed won't matter much.
Often, making an intersection departure will save more time than and
additional 20kts. 190kts or 210kts won't make much difference on even the
longest flight.

Why do you want a potty? They stink and YOU have to empty them. I have had
potty in my airplane for 6 yrs and it has never been used.

Why does it need to be "cabin class" unless it is eight seats or greater?

Your specs add up to a big, heavy airplane with a lot of frontal area. It
is going to require big, powerful, thirsty engines to pull it through the
air. All this is going to cost multiples of the proposed budget.

You may have great reasons for every spec but you need to narrow it down
quite a bit.

Mike
MU-2


"john szpara" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:11:44 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:

I don't think anything fits all those requirements.


Those are best case scenario. I figure I will have to give up one or
more things. But I may as well lay all the cards on the table, and
hope for the best hand.

John Szpara
Affordable Satellite
Fiero Owner 2-84 Indy Pace cars, 86 Coupe, 88 Formula 3.4, 88 Coupe, 88GT

What is magical about 200kts? Why do you care if it will go fast at low
altitudes? If you are going any distance, you will be high and if you are
only going a short distance a faster cruising speed won't matter much.
Often, making an intersection departure will save more time than and
additional 20kts. 190kts or 210kts won't make much difference on even the
longest flight.

I don't know what is magical about 200kts. Just a target, I suppose,
for being able to travel longer distances in a reasonable period of
time.

You make good points about speed, though.

Why do you want a potty? They stink and YOU have to empty them. I have had
potty in my airplane for 6 yrs and it has never been used.

You've never been on a long trip with my wife. When we're driving, we
have to stop every hour for the restroom. That's tough to do on a long
flight, especially if you're at the flight levels and she tells you
she "has to go". Not such a big deal for me, if I have a relief tube,
but for her its a different story.

Why does it need to be "cabin class" unless it is eight seats or greater?

So the passengers don't have to climb over seats to get in and out?

Your specs add up to a big, heavy airplane with a lot of frontal area. It
is going to require big, powerful, thirsty engines to pull it through the
air. All this is going to cost multiples of the proposed budget.

OK, so some things will have to be sacrificed. My list is only stuff
I'd like to have. Reality (and pocketbook) will dictate what I *can*
have.

You may have great reasons for every spec but you need to narrow it down
quite a bit.

That's why I'm here. Ask the questions now, before I write a big
check.

John Szpara
Affordable Satellite
Fiero Owner 2-84 Indy Pace cars, 86 Coupe, 88 Formula 3.4, 88 Coupe, 88GT

john szpara wrote:
Why do you want a potty? They stink and YOU have to empty them. I have had
potty in my airplane for 6 yrs and it has never been used.

You've never been on a long trip with my wife. When we're driving, we
have to stop every hour for the restroom. That's tough to do on a long
flight, especially if you're at the flight levels and she tells you
she "has to go". Not such a big deal for me, if I have a relief tube,
but for her its a different story.

My family has made two 800 nm trips in the last two years.
The first was in a Cherokee Six. The legs were three to three-and-a-half hours.
This was max bladder range for the kids.
The second trip was in a C182. Prior to departure, my wife decreed that
legs were to be two-hours (+/-).
It added two fuel stops and two hours to the flight, but everyone was happy.