Enola Gay Damaged at Air & Space Museum Opening

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Dan Luke wrote:

It would surprise me to learn that the Soviets were terrified of a
weapon based on the thoroughly discredited idea that heavily armed,
unescorted strategic bombers could fight their way deep into enemy
territory with acceptable losses.

You mean like the losses the B-29s took bombing Japan? Of course, the
losses to
the B-17s against Germany were worse. Lets take the worst case there. We
lost
something over 60% of the planes that flew the Schweinfurt "Black
Thursday" raid
and over half the planes made it to the target.

Not 60%, George...60 PLANES...out of over 300 that took on the mission. I've
leave the math (one-fifth, for the math challenged) to you.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:
You mean like the losses the B-29s took bombing Japan?

The Japanese air forces were too decimated and technologically too
inferior for effective interception of the fast, high flying B-29s. That
would not have been the case with B-36s vs. Soviet air power.

At one time, we could have launched over 30 B-36s at any given moment.
So only 10 of them reach their targets.

That is by no means certain, given the vast distances the B-36s would
have had to fly unescorted.

He would certainly be worried about the fact that the odds were good
that
he'd be in one of them.

He would have had a long time to get out of town.

The B-36 always struck me as a flying
porkbarrel project propelled by Curtis LeMay's ego.

It was the only plane capable of carrying nuclear weapons into
the USSR that could possibly reach production in a few years.

What about the B-29 (and B-50)? We had a lot more of them, and there
were plenty of runways in Europe they could use, which was not the case
with the B-36.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:30:46 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

the Enola Gay -- beautifully refurbished and now
on display at the new Udvar-Hazy facility of the National Air & Space
Museum -- was damaged by some nut case from Ohio who threw something at the
plane and dented it during a protest against the atomic bombing of Japan.

He was protesting something that happened three generations ago?

Aren't protests usually more effective if they're done *before* an
event takes place?

Rob

"Rob Perkins" wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:30:46 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

the Enola Gay -- beautifully refurbished and now
on display at the new Udvar-Hazy facility of the National Air & Space
Museum -- was damaged by some nut case from Ohio who threw something at
the
plane and dented it during a protest against the atomic bombing of Japan.

He was protesting something that happened three generations ago?

Aren't protests usually more effective if they're done *before* an
event takes place?

Didn't have any effect here last winter.

-- David Brooks

Aren't protests usually more effective if they're done *before* an
event takes place?

Didn't have any effect here last winter.

I think he wanted the protestor to take his argument to Harry Truman
in 1945.

(He was just barely old enough. As I recall the first news story, the
bottle thrower was 73.)


all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Aren't protests usually more effective if they're done *before* an
event takes place?

Didn't have any effect here last winter.

I think he wanted the protestor to take his argument to Harry Truman
in 1945.

I was referring to the protests that preceded the Iraq invasion.

-- David Brooks

I think he wanted the protestor to take his argument to Harry Truman
in 1945.

I was referring to the protests that preceded the Iraq invasion.

Nevertheless, the poster seemed to be referring to the earlier
incident: Little Boy.

The purpose of a protest is to protest. Nobody expects it to succeed!
Sheez. A whole generation spoiled rotten by the Vietnam War.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Rob Perkins wrote in message . ..
Aren't protests usually more effective if they're done *before* an
event takes place?

As far as I can tell, protests aren't intended to affect events.

Rather, they seem to exist solely for the self-gratification of the
participants. They fail even in this regard because there's
ultimately no satisfaction to be found in immersing yourself in
irrationality and hatred.

Publish his name and address. Then let the chips fall ....



"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:GKjEb.593526$Fm2.545217@attbi_s04...
I'm surprised no one has brought up this travesty.

For those who don't know, the Enola Gay -- beautifully refurbished and now
on display at the new Udvar-Hazy facility of the National Air & Space
Museum -- was damaged by some nut case from Ohio who threw something at
the
plane and dented it during a protest against the atomic bombing of Japan.

If it were up to me, a life sentence without hope of parole would be too
good for this jerk. To damage an irreplaceable aircraft, and a piece of
history, is absolutely unconscionable.

Margy, how bad is it?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Roger Tracy" wrote in message


Publish his name and address. Then let the chips fall ....

I'm not certain it would have been chips falling had I seen him do it.

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/tknoFlyer
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