Recording your flight time

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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And if you *are* using the flight timer, have you stopped using the old
archaic "1.3 hours" method of recording flight time? Anyone using actual
hours and minutes in their logbook instead?

Well, most of my flying of late has been towing banners, and the Cubs don't
have ANYTHING electrical in 'em. I look at my watch after I start the
engine write it down on my sheet, go pull the left chock, walk to get the
right one, then hop in and go.

When I shut down, I write down that time as well. Then I have to go back
and convert from HH:MM to HH.(MM/60) for my logbook.

--
Mike

I use my Westbend clock which I fastened with velcro. I start when departing
and stop after I have cleared the active.
I may be shorting my logbook, but who cares as long as I do not inflate my
time.
Of course I can always substantiate my time since I log every fuel purchase
with tach and hobs time.
Hank

I log what ever my transponder says I flew.



Jay Honeck wrote:

With built-in flight timers becoming the norm in virtually all new avionics
(heck, even the new transponder I'm getting has one), just wondering if
folks are migrating away from using hobbs/tach time to record their flight
time?

And if you *are* using the flight timer, have you stopped using the old
archaic "1.3 hours" method of recording flight time? Anyone using actual
hours and minutes in their logbook instead?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

With built-in flight timers becoming the norm . . .

Here in Canada we are required to record flight time and air time.

Flight time for any leg is taken straight from the Hobbs.
Air time is Hobbs minus .2 hour per leg (for runup/taxi etc.)

That is the way that I record all of my flights.

Air time is the time that we record as TBO.
Therefore the more legs we squeeze in, the more .2 hour deductions and
the longer to TBO.

I know one pilot who doesn't have a Hobbs, and who only records about
half his actual time. Having witnessed this I personally would prefer,
in the interests of safety, to see Hobbs time as a legal requirement -
rather like an oddometer reading is required for a used car sale.
It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument
Cessna 172H C-GICE

"tony roberts" wrote in message
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I know one pilot who doesn't have a Hobbs, and who only records about
half his actual time. Having witnessed this I personally would prefer,
in the interests of safety, to see Hobbs time as a legal requirement -
rather like an oddometer reading is required for a used car sale.
It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.

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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:

"tony roberts" wrote in message
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I know one pilot who doesn't have a Hobbs, and who only records about
half his actual time. Having witnessed this I personally would prefer,
in the interests of safety, to see Hobbs time as a legal requirement -
rather like an oddometer reading is required for a used car sale.
It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.




I don't even have a timer on my tach.
Nor was there one on any of the more than 6 aircraft that I trained in.
So I don't agree with your statement.

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument
Cessna 172H C-GICE

"tony roberts" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:

"tony roberts" wrote in message
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I know one pilot who doesn't have a Hobbs, and who only records about
half his actual time. Having witnessed this I personally would prefer,
in the interests of safety, to see Hobbs time as a legal requirement -
rather like an oddometer reading is required for a used car sale.
It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.




I don't even have a timer on my tach.
Nor was there one on any of the more than 6 aircraft that I trained in.
So I don't agree with your statement.

No, you don't have a timer on the tach; but that's not the time we're
talking about. The discussion is "flight time" not engine time (for purpose
of TBO).

No, you don't have a timer on the tach; but that's not the time we're
talking about. The discussion is "flight time" not engine time (for purpose
of TBO).

You are correct.
One of us is confused - it isn't difficult to confuse me
I originally said:
Flight time for any leg is taken straight from the Hobbs.
Air time is Hobbs minus .2 hour per leg (for runup/taxi etc.)

And air time is what we accumulate to determine when we reach TBO.
I don't know how it works elsewhere - this is how it works in Canada.


--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument
Cessna 172H C-GICE

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ...

It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.

Nope, it's based on time in service. You can use any reliable
means of determining the service time as far as the FAA is concerned.
(Not that TBO means anything to most of us).

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.

Nope, it's based on time in service. You can use any reliable
means of determining the service time as far as the FAA is concerned.
(Not that TBO means anything to most of us).

What "time" are you referring to? Years/months?