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Old December 29th 03, 03:04 PM
Marco Leon
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I saw the end part of the incident. The plane is tied down 10 spots away
from mine at Republic Airport in NY. Here's what I saw:

Driving to Republic, I saw what I thought was a tow plane and a glider
turning final on RWY 19. It struck me as odd since there are no glider ops
at FRG. When they're on final, it becomes apparent that it was a Mooney with
a Nassau County PD helicopter in close trail (like 50-100ft!). I watched as
long as I could without crashing my car and I was able to see another
helicopter hovering over the main ramp while the PD helo taxied with the
Mooney.

I had access to the Echo ramp (for those that are familiar with FRG) but
since the Orange Alert took place, car access was only through a maintenance
gate that neccessitated a trek across the main ramp and hence a good view of
what was going on. Basically, the guy's car was being searched and there was
a lot of people standing around. The other helo turned out to be an unmarked
souped-up Huey with about 5 different sensors protruding from various
locations. Could have been the Feds (anyone know? It wa a mettalic tan
color).

The whole thing was blown out of proportion as usual but maybe not as much
as I thought. According to a British newspaper, it had arrested two Saudi
nationals who were planning on crashing a small plane into an airliner
(http://www.todayonline.com/articles/12378.asp) The story could have been
total BS but we all know that's all that's needed to raise tensions. If that
Brit story played into this incident, then that's some pretty bad timing for
the Mooney pilot.

We'll never know.

Marco



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Old December 29th 03, 04:19 PM
Mike Rapoport
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"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
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The whole thing was blown out of proportion as usual but maybe not as much
as I thought. According to a British newspaper, it had arrested two Saudi
nationals who were planning on crashing a small plane into an airliner
(http://www.todayonline.com/articles/12378.asp) The story could have been
total BS but we all know that's all that's needed to raise tensions. If

that
Brit story played into this incident, then that's some pretty bad timing

for
the Mooney pilot.

We'll never know.

Marco


Trying to hit an jet with a small piston single is like trying to hit a
bullet with an arrow. It would be interesting to see them try.

Mike
MU-2



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Old December 29th 03, 04:22 PM
Geoffrey Barnes
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Trying to hit an jet with a small piston single is like trying to hit a
bullet with an arrow. It would be interesting to see them try.


I think the point of the news stories right now is that they were going to
do this while both they and the 777 were taxiing, and not while in flight.


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Old December 29th 03, 04:36 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Geoffrey Barnes" wrote in message nk.net...
Trying to hit an jet with a small piston single is like trying to hit a
bullet with an arrow. It would be interesting to see them try.


I think the point of the news stories right now is that they were going to
do this while both they and the 777 were taxiing, and not while in flight.

In that case, I'd have loaded up a bunch of baggage trolleys and chased after
the 777 with a tug.

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Old December 29th 03, 08:15 PM
John T
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In that case, I'd have loaded up a bunch of baggage trolleys and
chased after the 777 with a tug.


That would work quite well, but one of the goals of a "terrorist" is the
psychological effect of the attack. Using the tug and luggage train
wouldn't be nearly as spectacular/sensational as using another airplane.

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Old December 29th 03, 04:24 PM
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
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The whole thing was blown out of proportion as usual but maybe not as

much
as I thought. According to a British newspaper, it had arrested two

Saudi
nationals who were planning on crashing a small plane into an airliner
(http://www.todayonline.com/articles/12378.asp) The story could have

been
total BS but we all know that's all that's needed to raise tensions. If

that
Brit story played into this incident, then that's some pretty bad timing

for
the Mooney pilot.

We'll never know.

Marco


Trying to hit an jet with a small piston single is like trying to hit a
bullet with an arrow. It would be interesting to see them try.

I think they were going to do it while the plane was taxiing, or during the
takeoff run.


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Old December 30th 03, 05:44 AM
John Roncallo
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Mike Rapoport wrote:

"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
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The whole thing was blown out of proportion as usual but maybe not as much
as I thought. According to a British newspaper, it had arrested two Saudi
nationals who were planning on crashing a small plane into an airliner
(http://www.todayonline.com/articles/12378.asp) The story could have been
total BS but we all know that's all that's needed to raise tensions. If


that

Brit story played into this incident, then that's some pretty bad timing


for

the Mooney pilot.

We'll never know.

Marco



Trying to hit an jet with a small piston single is like trying to hit a
bullet with an arrow. It would be interesting to see them try.

Mike
MU-2




I agree. It would be allot easyier to do with a van that has allot more
space and capacity for bombs. Thats why they should close down all the
streets in Chicago and re-open Miegs.

John Roncallo

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Old December 29th 03, 07:24 PM
John Gaquin
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"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message news:3ff03473

....The plane is tied down 10 spots away
from mine at Republic Airport in NY.


Drop over some time and strike up a conversation. I'd love to know if this
guy is as much of a nimrod as this flight would seem to indicate.

JG


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Old December 29th 03, 07:37 PM
Marco Leon
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Are you at Echo? I don't know the guy personally so I can't really comment.
He apparently was very apologetic according tot the various news reports and
didn't deny his mistake. Facts are facts though. The guy is in serious need
of pilotage training and needs to make use of the Terminal chart! In the
meantime, he should invest in a nice handheld GPS if they don't take his
ticket away.

I just hope this incident won't have permanent effects on our privileges in
NY or on GA in general. The Hudson River airspace exists on fragile grounds
as it is.

Marco

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message news:3ff03473

....The plane is tied down 10 spots away
from mine at Republic Airport in NY.


Drop over some time and strike up a conversation. I'd love to know if

this
guy is as much of a nimrod as this flight would seem to indicate.

JG





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Old December 30th 03, 08:56 AM
Thomas Borchert
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John,

as this flight would seem to indicate.


and his blathering to the media, too.

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