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Old March 20th 04, 11:42 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Jim,

Oh? What is the percentage of Windows to Non-Windows systems in the HOME as
I stated, Bob?


It's even lower. But I fear that's not what he meant.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old March 19th 04, 06:12 AM
Blanche
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yes, it's been brought to AOPA's attention.

And ignored by AOPA. Not even the courtesy of an email from
them.


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Old March 19th 04, 08:04 AM
C J Campbell
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If the market was worth the development cost then they would do it. It is
all about money. No one gives a #*&^( about your opinion that one OS is
'better' than another.

Last I looked, AOPA was based in the United States, not some lunatic's idea
of a socialist paradise that requires equal effort be spent on all operating
systems, no matter how few people use each one.


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Old March 19th 04, 02:32 PM
Travis Marlatte
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Umm. It can't be all about the money - it's a free planner!

I'm not sure why AOPA needs to sponsor any kind of a planner. I presume that
the motiviation is to encourage pilots to get better briefings to reduce
accident rates. I just don't see that the new planner is going to pull in
that many additional pilots.

Personally, I wish that AOPA would work to improve the DUATS web interface
and to encourage improvements to Cirrus's client-driven planner - at someone
else's expense.

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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...
If the market was worth the development cost then they would do it. It is
all about money. No one gives a #*&^( about your opinion that one OS is
'better' than another.

Last I looked, AOPA was based in the United States, not some lunatic's

idea
of a socialist paradise that requires equal effort be spent on all

operating
systems, no matter how few people use each one.




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Old March 19th 04, 02:42 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Travis Marlatte" wrote in message
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Umm. It can't be all about the money - it's a free planner!


Free to endusers that are AOPA members. Certainly you cannot believe there
were no development costs.



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Old March 19th 04, 06:53 PM
Frank
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C J Campbell wrote:

If the market was worth the development cost then they would do it. It is
all about money. No one gives a #*&^( about your opinion that one OS is
'better' than another.

Last I looked, AOPA was based in the United States, not some lunatic's
idea of a socialist paradise that requires equal effort be spent on all
operating systems, no matter how few people use each one.


If the AOPA planner wasn't a web based application then I'd agree with you.
Current market conditions would make it very difficult to justify spending
even a small extra amount to provide support for Linux and OSX.

But development for web based content that is platform independent need not
cost any more. Combine that with the fact that Mac and Linux usage is
growing and I think it makes AOPA look rather short sighted.

At some point Macs and Linux boxen may become a large enough segment that
AOPA will want to provide support for them. Porting a Windows only app will
then add to whatever it cost them now.

The Internet works best when it is platform independent and so everytime
someone puts content out that excludes a whole class machines we all lose.

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Old March 19th 04, 08:53 PM
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Are you always such an ignorant a**hole?


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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If the market was worth the development cost then they would do it. It is
all about money. No one gives a #*&^( about your opinion that one OS is
'better' than another.

Last I looked, AOPA was based in the United States, not some lunatic's

idea
of a socialist paradise that requires equal effort be spent on all

operating
systems, no matter how few people use each one.




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Old March 20th 04, 01:56 AM
C J Campbell
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Are you always such an ignorant a**hole?


Generally. There have been rare exceptions when I was even more ignorant.

I am certain your carefully reasoned reply completely refutes my point.
However, I will ignorantly continue to maintain my point of view. After all,
the whole Microsoft vs. everybody else debate really is nothing more nor
less than a religious holy war. Reason has no place in it.


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Old March 19th 04, 08:35 AM
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Especially given what's going on with viruses, worms, zombie machines, and
the like, requiring that AOPA members used one particular unsafe platform
to exercise an organization benefit seems foolish.


It is outrageous that the writers of these viruses, worms, zombie machines,
and the like are mostly ignoring your operating system. Their software
instead only targets the prevailing monoculture, treating you like you did
not exist. This is blatant discrimination against you, suggesting that you
are too unimportant to be worth their time. I suggest that we demand that
hackers and other criminals give all operating systems equal time, or we
double their sentences when they are caught.


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Old March 19th 04, 11:25 AM
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Andrew Gideon wrote in message agonline.com...
I tried to go to the AOPA Flight Planning web page today, and found that the
only option remaining is to download a Microsoft-only application. This
seems annoying.


indeed. I prefer to use a real computer myself, but there are some simple
solution: commercial solutions like I use myself (running AOPA Flight
Planning under either VMware or VirtualPC -- the former making it possible
to run it from Linux, among other things, the latter from Macintosh); or
another free solution: AOPA Flight Planning works just fine under Wine
(under linux);

just tried it a minute ago (I didn't explore the whole functionality under
Wine yet, but it looks promising); I also tried under knoppix (since I
have a very customized Linux setup, I wanted to be sure the thing would
work under a 'standard' set up easily reproducible by someone else); and
the thing fired up just as advertised.

info about knoppix can be found here (it is a very neat Debian based
distribution of Linux that boots from the CD, i.e., neat for those
who'd like to try what a real OS looks like without having to
install anything on their PC): http://www.knoppix.org/

and info about Wine can be found he
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wine/ (note that Wine seem to work
also under MacOS though I haven't tried it myself);

oh, and to be complete, info about VMware can be found he
http://www.vmware.com/ and VirtualPC here (Connectix having been bought
by Microsoft):
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product...?pid=virtualpc

hope it helps,

--Sylvain
 




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