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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... C, few extremist groups a If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you call the administration... I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the weird positions that it constantly takes in court. Please give examples of ACLU's "weird positions." The cases I read are the ones ACLU wins in court because usually an arm of government has gone weird, and oppressive. I'll give you an example of something weird -- the book of mormon. Now THAT is weird. Twain called it chloroform in print. I agree. |
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I'll give you an example of something weird -- the book of mormon.
Now THAT is weird. Twain called it chloroform in print. I agree. Did you catch the South Park episode on this subject? Excellent! |
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" jls" wrote in message
... I'll give you an example of something weird -- the book of mormon. Now THAT is weird. It's no weirder than the Torah, the New Testament, or the Koran. Singling out a particular religious tract as an exemplar of weirdness strikes me as unfair. --Gary |
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I'll give you an example of something weird -- the book of mormon. Now
THAT is weird. It's no weirder than the Torah, the New Testament, or the Koran. Singling out a particular religious tract as an exemplar of weirdness strikes me as unfair. Well said, Gary, and I agree 100%. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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In 1931, a congressional report of the Special House Committee to
Investigate Communist Activities stated: The American Civil Liberties Union is closely affiliated with the communist movement in the United States, and fully 90 percent of its efforts are on behalf of communists who have come into conflict with the law. It claims to stand for free speech, free press, and free assembly; but it is quite apparent that the main function of the ACLU is to attempt to protect the communists in their advocacy of force and violence to overthrow the government, replacing the American flag by a red flag and erecting a Soviet government in place of the republican form of government guaranteed to each state by the federal Constitution. The House committee members had good reason to arrive at that conclusion. The ACLU’s membership, leadership, and projects soon gave rise to claims by critics that the organization’s acronym really stood for Atheists, Communists, and Libertines United, or Anti-Christian Lawyers Union. The ACLU was launched at a party given for Roger Baldwin upon his release from prison for draft evasion in 1919. The main attendees at the soiree were Norman Thomas, who would become the patriarch of the Socialist Party; Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, who would become the Communist Party’s national chairman; and Agnes Smedley, who would become a Soviet espionage agent in China. Top Communist Party officials who became national committee members or members of its board of directors included Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, William Z. Foster, Louis Budenz, Corliss Lamont, and Scott Nearing, as well as hundreds of Communist fellow travelers. Roger Baldwin directed the ACLU for 30 years. Earlier, he described his own philosophy this way in his college yearbook: "I am for Socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the State itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal." He gave no evidence of ever having swerved from that goal. However, he did give his comrades good advice on effective stratagems for disguising their true intent. In 1917, Baldwin wrote to Louis Lochner of the People’s Council, a Communist group, counseling: Do steer away from making it [the People’s Council] look like a Socialist enterprise. Too many people have already gotten the idea that it is nine-tenths a Socialist movement.... We want also to look like patriots in everything we do. We want to get a lot of good flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of this country, and to show that we are the folks that really stand for the spirit of our institutions. The ACLU has perfected this masquerade, posing as the Constitution’s guardian while working to destroy it and the morality, responsibility, and decentralized, local governance essential to our constitutional system. The organization defends abortion on demand, child pornography, flag burning, homosexual "marriages" and the right of homosexuals to adopt children, full "constitutional" rights for illegal aliens, and legalizing prostitution, pandering, and all recreational drug usage. It opposes private ownership of guns, voluntary school prayer, religious displays on public property, capital punishment, prison terms for most crimes, and tax-exemptions for churches and synagogues. For decades, the ACLU has worked hand-in-glove with the National Lawyers Guild, officially cited by a committee of Congress as "the foremost legal bulwark of the Communist Party." Both of these groups have been striving since the early 20th century to undermine all U.S. immigration and internal security protections. The easy access across our borders enjoyed by the 9-11 hijackers is largely a testament to the nonstop attacks by the ACLU-NLG saboteurs upon the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the Border Patrol, and our immigration laws. Following the September 11th terror attacks, the ACLU and NLG activists have continued their subversion. One of their most outrageous ongoing campaigns has been to support members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), a radical, Marxist branch of the PLO. The INS had tried since 1987 to deport eight members of this terrorist group from the U.S., but had been stymied by the continuous appeals and legal delaying tactics of the ACLU-NLG attorneys. Working with Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts and Representative John Conyers of Michigan, the ACLU-NLG radicals fashioned language to the USA PATRIOT Act to exempt the members of the terrorist PFLP whom the INS was trying to deport. This showed unequivocally that the ACLU has not changed its spots. By undermining our internal security, the ACLU is actually helping fasten federal police-state measures on the 99.99 percent of Americans who present no terrorist threat, while protecting the small minority of terrorists and their supporters whom law enforcement agencies should be targeting. By usurping the mantle of leadership of the opposition to the growing police state, the ACLU’s current deception campaign provides a double effect. First, it scares many conservatives familiar with the group’s radical record into more readily accepting the Bush administration’s dangerous measures concentrating more and more power in Washington. The pseudo-conservative columnists and radio talk shows supporting the Bush agenda are having a field day denouncing all opponents as liberal ACLU dupes. On the other hand, patriotic Americans who have strong constitutional principles, but are unfamiliar with the ACLU’s sordid record and the role it is playing, may be tempted to join the ACLU-led opposition parade. Both of these false alternatives must be rejected. |
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