Wheelbarrowing and Flare

On 25 Dec 2004 02:00:24 -0800, "Ramapriya" wrote:

Has anyone seen wheelbarrowing occur? Prima facie, it appears too

I've seen it a couple of times, but porpoising is much more common.
Wheelbarrowing is due to forcing the plane down when it's still going
too fast to land.

Porpoising OTOH is from not getting the nose up soon enough. The plane
is rotating (nose coming up) when the nose wheel hits first, this
leads to the nose rebounding up and the mains come down and rebound.
You can get some pretty dramatic bounces this way.

The best way to stop a porpoise is to just give it the power and go
around.

The typical porpoise ends up with the pilot behind the airplane (OK so
it started that way), and each bounce gets bigger. They say three
times and out. I saw two instances where this was true. On the third
time they busted the nose gear right off on both planes.

improbable (ludicrous almost) a thing to happen but even the FAA
Airplane Flying Handbook copy that I have mentions it!

Some well known planes are quite prone to porpoising if the pilot gets
behind it. They are a bit heavy up front although the CG is fine. The
problem comes in landing. That is why you see cautions about checking
firewalls for wrinkles when purchasing a used plane.


Also, while the ways of performing a flare is mentioned at many places,
the reason for a flare is conspicuously absent everywhere. Just why is

Actually it's not. *Almost* anything that flys flares on landing
whether it has jet engines or feathers.

a flare needed vis-a-vis a 3-point landing? After all, birds just come
in and sit, without having to flare...

Virtually all the birds I've seen flare and they are really good at it
with many almost coming to a stop just before their feet touch down.

As some one else mentioned, with your interest you should take up
flying if you haven't already.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Ramapriya

In article ,
Roger wrote:



I've seen it a couple of times, but porpoising is much more common.
Wheelbarrowing is due to forcing the plane down when it's still going
too fast to land.

I guess I'm just more creative. I was getting a check-out in a 207 long
ago. There was just the CFI and me in the airplane, not a lot of gas.
The first takeoff we used 10 or 20 flap, I guess I held a little forward
pressure on the yoke because I was worried about this "big, heavy, fast
airplane" coming off the ground to slow. G The initial liftoff was
main wheels first. I can tell you from experience that a 207 doesn't
handle well with just the nosewheel on the ground. Since I wasn't doing
very well driving it I rotated to try flying it and things calmed down.
I have NEVER done that again.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

I've seen it a couple of times, but porpoising is much more common.

We had a friend earn his ticket in Iowa City a few years ago who porpoised a
rental Archer so badly that the nosewheel collapsed and the engine had to be
torn down. The prop was a total loss, too, of course.

Sadly, it rattled him so badly that he absolutely disappeared off the face
of the earth after that episode. I've never seen him again, and I presume
he's quit flying.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

Sadly, it rattled him so badly that he absolutely disappeared off the face
of the earth after that episode. I've never seen him again, and I presume
he's quit flying.

Probably still making installments on the damage bill.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.