Jet Flies On With One Engine Out on Nonstop Trip to London

"Doug Carter" wrote in message
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Mike Rapoport wrote:
So, is this good or bad?

Mike
MU-2


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Here's food for thought. The pilot chose to press on on three
engines, and then had to land for refueling ~100 miles short of his
transatlantic destination.

Whoever wrote this SOP for BA is clearly dumb as a bag of rocks.

Don't look now but twin engined airliners are approved for transoceanic
flights.

("Larry Dighera")
Here's food for thought. The pilot chose to press on on three
engines, and then had to land for refueling ~100 miles short of his
transatlantic destination.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,2497317.story


'They've got half the PhD's on the planet working on it.'

That was my thought when I read the first news blips on this flight. 747
flew for many hours (over land) before they decided to cross the Atlantic.
In that time I'm sure they were gathering and analyzing much data relating
to fuel burn.

Iceland, post-Iceland, pre-Ireland, Ireland, Manchester, London, etc. They
had safety options. Safety was never the main issue here. Could they make
London? THAT was the main issue and that answer is no, they could not make
London ...safely.

In the end the winds hurt them - no big deal.

Wonder if any Manchester passengers said, "Hey, I'll get off here."


Montblack

("Montblack" wrote)
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,2497317.story

Iceland, post-Iceland, pre-Ireland, Ireland, Manchester, London,


Go no-go decision points.

I guess "pre-Ireland" means ...hope we make Ireland.

Probably should have eliminated this one and just gone with Ireland, since
once you're out of that big circle around Iceland the next go no-go decision
point is the Irish coast. Not too many places to land pre-Ireland g.


Montblack

"Montblack" wrote in message
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("Montblack" wrote)
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,2497317.story

Iceland, post-Iceland, pre-Ireland, Ireland, Manchester, London,


Go no-go decision points.

I guess "pre-Ireland" means ...hope we make Ireland.

Probably should have eliminated this one and just gone with Ireland, since
once you're out of that big circle around Iceland the next go no-go
decision point is the Irish coast. Not too many places to land pre-Ireland
g.

You need to check up on your North Atlantic geography. Once you are out of
that big circle around Iceland, the next point of decision is the Scottish
Coast. Ireland is only an issue if you are doing the none Greenland route
and then the first airport is Shannon but to allow the Russians to fly to
Cuba.

("Chris" wrote)
You need to check up on your North Atlantic geography. Once you are out
of that big circle around Iceland, the next point of decision is the
Scottish Coast. Ireland is only an issue if you are doing the none
Greenland route and then the first airport is Shannon but to allow the
Russians to fly to Cuba.


Anyone have a link to a (really good) Great Circle Route map maker? I dug
around in google but didn't much care for the maps I saw. One site is ok,
but not as good as a link I used to have - can't find that link anymore.

Montblack

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Chris" wrote)
You need to check up on your North Atlantic geography. Once you are out
of that big circle around Iceland, the next point of decision is the
Scottish Coast. Ireland is only an issue if you are doing the none
Greenland route and then the first airport is Shannon but to allow the
Russians to fly to Cuba.


Anyone have a link to a (really good) Great Circle Route map maker? I dug
around in google but didn't much care for the maps I saw. One site is ok,
but not as good as a link I used to have - can't find that link anymore.

Montblack


A string and a globe works.

Here's the one I usually use...

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=lax-lhr

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 at 11:46:06 in message
, Montblack
wrote:
Iceland, post-Iceland, pre-Ireland, Ireland, Manchester, London, etc. They
had safety options. Safety was never the main issue here. Could they make
London? THAT was the main issue and that answer is no, they could not make
London ...safely.

In the end the winds hurt them - no big deal.

Wonder if any Manchester passengers said, "Hey, I'll get off here."

I accept that you guys are right about flying on but would it be
permissible to take off on three engines after landing for fuel?
--
David CL Francis

"David CL Francis" wrote
I accept that you guys are right about flying on but would it be
permissible to take off on three engines after landing for fuel?
--
David CL Francis

I would be very surprised if they took off with passengers.
--
Jim in NC

David CL Francis wrote

I accept that you guys are right about flying on but would it be
permissible to take off on three engines after landing for fuel?

I don't know about the UK, but certainly not with passengers
on board here in the USofA.
It would a special three-engine ferry permit with only the
essential flight crew members on board.

Bob Moore