Humour airplanes and women

Peter Duniho wrote:
"Chris" wrote in message
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And people wonder why so few women participate in aviation.

I'm a woman and I think it's funny. Maybe so few women participate in
aviation because they are feminists with no sense of humor.

Well my wife thought it was funny when I showed her.


"Chris" wrote in message
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1) Airplanes usually kill you quickly - a woman takes her time.

"Chris" wrote in message
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Well my wife thought it was funny when I showed her.

And mine, who finally had a chance to read it, did not. Quite the opposite,
in fact.

Since a sample of two, or even of twenty, tells you nothing, all we really
know from that is that we and our respective spouses are well-suited for
each other.

Peter Duniho wrote:

"Chris" wrote in message
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Well my wife thought it was funny when I showed her.


And mine, who finally had a chance to read it, did not. Quite the opposite,
in fact.

That's certainly a surprise. :-)

Lack of a sense of humor must run in the family.


Matt

"Peter Duniho" wrote:
And mine, who finally had a chance to read it, did not. Quite the opposite,
in fact.

Peter, part of the reason gender jokes are funny is because there is a
least a bit of truth to them. Not all of us, men or women, fit gender
stereotypes completely, but it's silly to try and pretend those traits
don't exist and sad to not be able to see humor in some of them when
there clearly was no one being singled out and made fun of.

The idea that sexism in aviation doesn't exist is also burying one's
head in the sand. Two recent incidents come to mind:

One was a friend, nearing her private checkride. In a stage check with
an old-school, ex-military examiner that was not satisfied with some of
what he saw, he made the comment: "I think we have a 'blonde thing'
going on here."

Another friend was the only woman in an A&P course. The instructor
continually made snide remarks, even telling her before one procedure
not to cry because she was probably going to ruin her "painted nails".

Both of these women were offended, but neither were "scared away," and
both achieved their respective goals in spite of these attitudes.
Nevertheless, these are both examples of remarks and attitude that would
never be directed at any male student.

Bottom line is that these gender jokes are not specific to aviation, and
sexist attitudes such as the ones mentioned above aren't going to change
one way or the other because of them. People who *should* know better
and who get away with making these inappropriate, unprofessional remarks
that blatantly and intentionally offend women in aviation are
responsible for sexism in the industry, not these harmless gender jokes.

Chris wrote:

Well I thought they were funny and not offensive....
Michelle

"Michelle" wrote in message
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Well I thought they were funny and not offensive....

That's great. But you're one of the rare women who have managed to ignore
or get past the sexism in the aviation industry. That's good for you, but
means you're not exactly representative of women generally.

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Michelle" wrote in message
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Well I thought they were funny and not offensive....

That's great. But you're one of the rare women who have managed to ignore
or get past the sexism in the aviation industry. That's good for you, but
means you're not exactly representative of women generally.


That's one helluva big hole you been digging here lately Pete ole boy.

("Dave Stadt" wrote)
That's one helluva big hole you been digging here lately Pete ole boy.


There's a (FUNNY) South Park quip in there someplace :-)


Montblack

That's great. But you're one of the rare women who have managed to ignore
or get past the sexism in the aviation industry. That's good for you, but
means you're not exactly representative of women generally.

I'm sure the fact that flying usually requires interest in flying, interest
in systems and how the plane operates, interest in navigation, interest in
weather and general interest in how things work has nothing to do with the
rampant sexism you keep talking about. The reason women don't fly is that
the majority of women DON'T WANT TO FLY!!! Now, you're going to say that
women don't want to fly because we run a "he man woman haters club" in
aviation. Bull.

What most hangar flying, tire kickers have in common is the love of the
things mentioned above. And for some God-given reason, most women aren't
interested in that. Just like most mechanics aren't women and most
cartographers aren't women. Don't get me wrong. 2 of the best pilots I
know are women and have interests in all those things...but they are rare.
Hey, guess what....High School teachers are 70% women nationwide! Oh my at
the sexism!!!! And do you know what those women teachers do when they talk
to each other? They talk about stuff that interests women teachers! Someone
file a lawsuit at the heresy!

jf