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Old February 21st 06, 05:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Take a look at the Farner Colibri motorglider:

http://flatrock.org.nz/topics/flying...hf_colibri.htm

or the related microlight glider Aviafiber canard:

http://delta.plane.free.fr/ailes/canard-2FL.jpg

They are weird!

And do you remember Phil Lamson's « Quark » ? A 10 ft fuselage with
prone pilot position, and 20 ft wing (later extended to 30, then 40
ft). Unfortunately, I couldn't find a picture on the web. You'll
find it in "Soaring", June '67.

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Old February 22nd 06, 02:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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In article , Bob Caldwell REMOVE_TO_REPL
writes
So what is a Smyk anyway???


A poor put-upon character in a Dickens novel.


--
Mike Lindsay
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Old February 21st 06, 01:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The url author says that Henry Preiss designed the
RHJ sailplanes. Considerable credit(?) should be given
to Dick Schreder, although I'm not sure he would want
it. Preiss took the HP-18 design and widened the fuselage
so as to put side by side seating in it. Someone 'out
west' did a T-tail version of the HP-18 and put in
a center stick. I don't know whether the RHJ-8 drew
on that effort for its T-tail.

There were lots of jokes around here in the mid-West
about the arguments between Preiss and Schreder over
this glider.

At 00:12 21 February 2006, Wayne Paul wrote:

'MickiMinner' wrote in message
roups.com...
Ok, now an argument has REALLY started. My husband
and I are
disagreeing about the ugliest glider. I say a genesis
is (short
squatty), whereas my husband says the genesis is really
quite lovely.
His vote is for the 'whale' RHJ-?.
I dunno, but Malcom, I don't have pictures of either,
but you really
made us spit out our coffee laughing while reading
your new thread.


Here is a picture a RHJ-8
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/RHJ/C-FAJT.html
which is much nicer than an RHJ-7
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/RHJ/N7514.html







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Old February 21st 06, 02:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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"Nyal Williams" wrote in message
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The url author says that Henry Preiss designed the
RHJ sailplanes. Considerable credit(?) should be given
to Dick Schreder, although I'm not sure he would want
it. Preiss took the HP-18 design and widened the fuselage
so as to put side by side seating in it. Someone 'out
west' did a T-tail version of the HP-18 and put in
a center stick. I don't know whether the RHJ-8 drew
on that effort for its T-tail.

There were lots of jokes around here in the mid-West
about the arguments between Preiss and Schreder over
this glider.


Just a small correction --- All three of the RHJ designs were based on the
HP-14 (not the HP-18). I only have pictures of two RHJ-8s and they both
have "T" tails that look very similar to the "T" tail option Dick Schreder
provided for the late version of the HP-14 and HP-16 kits.

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder


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Old February 21st 06, 02:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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RHJ's are "Based on" - pretty loosely - the HP-14 and later HP-18...
The RHJ-7 uses essentially HP-14 wings with a custom fuelage, V-tail,
and fixed gear.
The RHJ-8s use a completely different wing and fuselage though the
T-tail looks similar to some HP-14s.
The RHJ-9 uses a different wing and fuselage, with foam ribs similar in
construction to HP-18.
The RHJ-10 used RHJ-9 wings and an enormous single-seat fuselage like a
stretched 14.
Probably more info than you wanted...
One of these days I'll get my RHJ-8 back in the air, too many toys, not
enough time...
See ya, Dave

PS: Dick and Henry apparently had a falling out, after which Dick would
only grudgingly admit parentage, but the DNA-tests prove it...

PPS: RHJ is for Richard (Dick Schreder), Henry (Preiss), and Joyce
(Henry's wife).

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Old February 21st 06, 01:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I think the ugliest glider was the one flown by Icarus - you know the one
with feather wings held together by wax. Icarus ignored the placard about
flying the mountain wave and it came apart in flight. The Crete FAA issued
an AD note that no further gliders were to be constructed with wax.

Other than that, I do not think I have ever seen an ugly glider. They are
all so graceful in the air - doing what they are designed to do.

Colin


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Old February 22nd 06, 08:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:41:19 GMT, "Malcolm Austin"
wrote:

I see in another thread that some are looking for the prettiest gliders, set
me
thinking, what's the ugliest (and picture links if possible please!



Messerschmitt Me 321.
Junkers JU 322.

Choose one.



Bye
Andreas
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Old February 22nd 06, 11:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Andreas Maurer wrote:

Messerschmitt Me 321.

I've seen film of these and the Me 323 flying. They showed quite
alarming amounts of flexibility and general aero-elasticity when flying,
surely enough to affect controllability. I can't imagine how difficult
they must have been to fly.

I think this film is in the Imperial War Museum collection.

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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. |
org | Zappa fan & glider pilot
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Old February 23rd 06, 10:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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At 04:12 23 February 2006, Gk wrote:

In Russia we have a saying (It could be Poland)


There are no ugly women, there is only lack of vodka.

--
Mike Lindsay


As a Pole visiting London some time ago; I doubt
if I know one
single Pole that could drink enough of vodka to beautify
British women.
Applying your simplified method to gliders - there
isn't one British
made glider worth mentioning...



You'd be hard put to come across many geniune natives,
of any sex, on a casual visit to London these days
- even 'some time ago' !

If you speak the Polish lanuage, you'll know what I
mean !

Bald Pilot.


 




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