Cruise clearance

What about I'm assigned 5000, and I'm level at 5000. I request
a "cruise 7000" and am granted that request. ("347FB cruise
seven thousand").

Why would you request a descent and approach clearance if all you wanted was
to climb from 5000 to 7000? If you want a higher altitude, ask for a higher
altitude.


I didn't say that "all I wanted" was to climb... I said what my ATC request
was, and gave no indication as to why. When I ask ATC for a clearance, they
don't ask me why.

But to give you one scenario, I'm at 5000, nearing my destination, and there's
a big bad cloud in front of me which goes from 2000 to 6000. I don't want to
enter the cloud because I'm afraid of the dark. Or maybe there's ice. Or
maybe my passenger's uncomfortable. Or maybe I just want to test the system.
Or maybe it's for training.

So, a "cruise 7000" lets me climb over this cloud, and then descend back down
to 5000, and then descend to my destination and do the approach (where the
conditions are 800-2, but it's a nice cloud, not a big bad cloud, and I've
already pushed my passenger overboard anyway)


1: is this an improper request? (never mind whether it will
accomplish what anybody thinks I want to accomplish)

Yes.


Why is the request =improper=? (again, never mind whether it accomplishes what
you may think I want to accomplish) And why would granting it be improper?


you cannot get to 7000 from 5000 without climbing. [...] I advise you to get
off the drugs.


What do you think the drugs are for?

Jose





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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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I didn't say that "all I wanted" was to climb... I said what my
ATC request was, and gave no indication as to why. When I
ask ATC for a clearance, they don't ask me why.


But they do assume you understand what you're requesting.



But to give you one scenario, I'm at 5000, nearing my destination,
and there's a big bad cloud in front of me which goes from 2000
to 6000. I don't want to enter the cloud because I'm afraid of
the dark.


If you're afraid to enter clouds there's no reason for you to pursue an
instrument rating and this will never be an issue for you. A cruise
clearance is an IFR function.



What do you think the drugs are for?


Recreation.