The subsidies to GA are MASSIVE

Matt Barrow schrieb:

Some pilots are Rembrandt's, others are Picasso's.

I wasn't aware that Picasso and Rembrandt ever owned pilots.

Stefan

Some pilots are Rembrandt's, others are Picasso's.

As a free artist, I don't belong to anyone.

Jose
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"Matt Barrow" wrote:

Some pilots are Rembrandt's, others are Picasso's.

Which one do you belong to?

In article ,
"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"Jay B" wrote in message
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Skylune wrote:
No amount of actual data or reasoning will ever convince private pilots
that the paltry couple of hundred million dollars generated by AV gas
taxes per year doesn't cover the cost of the grants and FAA services
absorbed by GA.

For a group that likes to consider itself technical and
scientific-minded,
this is astonishing. (Well, actually not, based on the other nonsense
put
out by some GA groups on safety, cost, convenience, etc.)

Flying is not a science...it's an art.

:OP

Some pilots are Rembrandt's, others are Picasso's.

.... And some are Thomas Kincades.

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

No amount of actual data or reasoning will ever convince private pilots
that the paltry couple of hundred million dollars generated by AV gas
taxes per year doesn't cover the cost of the grants and FAA services
absorbed by GA.


Actually, it would require only factual data and sound reasoning.

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
No amount of actual data or reasoning will ever convince private pilots
that the paltry couple of hundred million dollars generated by AV gas
taxes per year doesn't cover the cost of the grants and FAA services
absorbed by GA.

I'm glad you used the term absorbed, rather than consumed.

My point is that the expenses are incurred primarily for the benefit of
airlines. A new runway eight feet thick was not designed with a Piper
Cherokee in mind, yet you feel the Cherokee is expected just as much to use
that runway as the 747 it was designed for.


For a group that likes to consider itself technical and scientific-minded,
this is astonishing. (Well, actually not, based on the other nonsense put
out by some GA groups on safety, cost, convenience, etc.)

When the data presented is factually wrong (ORH is not a GA airport, neither
is Westover AFB or Barnes), what do you expect when people call for 'GA
paying it's fair share'?

In article gPDOg.488$HZ5.421@trndny08,
"Steve Foley" wrote:

When the data presented is factually wrong (ORH is not a GA airport, neither
is Westover AFB or Barnes), what do you expect when people call for 'GA
paying it's fair share'?

Why feed the troll?

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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...

Why feed the troll?


I find making sport of Skylune to be amusing.

Skylune,

You seem to assume that the main purpose of GA airports is
entertainment for private pilots. This is incorrect.

Public GA airports are part the the U.S. transportation infrastructure.
They are essential for providing support for activities that are in
the public interest. These activities include:

Aerial Firefighting
Time critical medical tranportation
Disaster relief (often airports are the only access points to affected
areas)
U.S. Mail delivery
Package and parcel delivery
and many more...

Should private pilots have to pay the full cost of the infrastructure
if it is there to serve the public interest? If private pilots went
away tommorrow, most of the airports would still need to exist to serve
public needs, and they would receive less fuel tax support than they do
now. Talk about a subsidy!

Dean

Skylune wrote:
Now that I have again provided the amount of annual funding deriving from
GA fuel taxes (including AV GAS and Jet A), compare that to 2005 capital
grants to airports by looking at the ACTUAL 2005 DATA below. (Note that
these figures DO NOT include the $150K annual operating subsidy that many
GA airports receive.)

DAMN: the subsidies are enormous, as every informed person knows....

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...rants_2005.pdf

wrote in message
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Skylune,

You seem to assume that the main purpose of GA airports is
entertainment for private pilots. This is incorrect.

Public GA airports are part the the U.S. transportation infrastructure.
They are essential for providing support for activities that are in
the public interest. These activities include:

Aerial Firefighting
Time critical medical tranportation
Disaster relief (often airports are the only access points to affected
areas)
U.S. Mail delivery
Package and parcel delivery
and many more...

Should private pilots have to pay the full cost of the infrastructure
if it is there to serve the public interest? If private pilots went
away tommorrow, most of the airports would still need to exist to serve
public needs, and they would receive less fuel tax support than they do
now. Talk about a subsidy!

Dean


Perhaps you are not familiar with Skylune. He is an anti-aviation troll,
nothing more. He may even be aware that what he posts is incorrect.